Fred and I

[Voodoo Daddy]

Fred you are a plonker ...goodbye!

Another turd floating in the punchbowl. Why didnt you use a little common sense and leave your post positive? Do you think that saying that about Fred gives you any credibility at all? No wonder I hate people....

 

[cuesmith]

As some of you have noticed and very kindly greeted me on, today is my birthday. I spent my last birthday in Conneticut and New York at Jimbo's Tournament/RSB Get-together. It wasn't the first time I've met up with Fred, Jimbo and some of the other on-line pool junkies, but it was one of the most enjoyable. There are lots of you who feel that Jimbo is an ass because of his opinionated posts. Well I found him to be a real gentleman and a great guy in person. Fred is another great guy. I spent a good bit of my time talking with him last year and again at the Derby City Classic. I'm proud to call him a friend and feel that anything he has to say is worth listening to. I won't say I agree with every thing he's ever said, but I'm sure that he as honest as the day is long and he's the type who does the research instead of just passing along other opinions he's heard.

I have better things to do than read through every post in the thread that started all of this controversy, especially when it's a subject that doesn't interest me to begin with, and I'm not taking sides in an argument that can't be won! I will say that it would be a real shame if Fred leaves the forum because of the frustrations that occurred. He's an asset to any conversation and the type of guy I respect. I hope he cools off and comes back a little smarter, maybe taking some solice in the "Serenity Prayer".

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.


Amen.


just more hot air!

Sherm

 

[Egg McDogit]

One thing theone mentioned in that pool/snooker thread was that there were a couple of different points throughout the thread and it was unclear what exactly was being argued at any given time. I think that was a very good point lol

 

[drivermaker]

Craig,
For several years I have been crucified in most forums due to my honesty. Several years ago I took a stand against a woman that made roughly 50-100 posts per day on this forum and the CCB. It was ridiculous, and though I was publicly ridiculed for the verbage I used in stating my frustration, behind the scenes I received twice as many PM's praising me for having the audacity to say what others had wanted to say all along. In the eyes of some, that made me a *****. So be it. Whitewolf is the only person that is still holding a grudge over that, yet Bluewolf is a thing of the past. Your welcome.

I had several run ins with Fran Crimi several years ago. I felt as if she was talking down to me and to other people and I confronted her about it - privately (initially) and she made it public. Her mother passed away about 2 years ago and some classless jerk wrote a very ugly, demented post directd to Fran (which I never got a chance to read because it was removed very quickly) and I was blamed for it. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. I have publicly and privately attempted to apologize to Fran Crimi for our personal misunderstanding, yet she refuses to acknowledge any of my attempts to contact her. I guess that makes me a cold hearted ***** once again.

My war with Fast Larry is legendary. The forums were able to ban Larry, but it did not stop Larry from attacking me personally via private e-mail, calling my job, harrassing me constantly, sigining me up for gay dating sites, and trying to blame me for all of the problems he has had in these forums for all of these years. Though standing up to Larry was annoying to some people on RSB, it was necessary, and once again I had the audacity to do it - and admittedly it was a lot of fun - yet childish. I contend that I had to stoop to his level to be effective. Larry now affectionately refers to me as "The Deathstar - The Black Death ***** of Doom". Ask Larry, he wants none of what I have to offer in the heat of battle. Mission accomplished. Shoot me.

The point I am making is that not everybody is going to agree with what you say or what you do or how you do it or how you say it. That's a fact of life. Individual opinions are going to clash. That is to be expected. I can only be me. It is what I am best at. Not everyone is going to like me or what I say.

Anyone that makes a personal assessment of me from my posts is extremely shallow. The people that I have met through these forums have all been really cool in person. None of them expected me to be as short as I am, which is always funny. I believe there is much more to Fred than you are giving him credit for. On this subject, you don't see eye to eye. Don't write him off as an A-hole just because of that. Fred has always been very supportive and he has always been a very good friend to have (and he's cute). He's gone off on me more than once, but that's life. I don't hate him for it, in fact at times I deserved it and I know that. I don't even hate Fast Larry. I genuinely feel sorry for him and anyone that might be like Bluewolf. I wish Fran Crimi nothing but the best in all of her endeavors, I even bought her book. (Really!!! I did!!!)

And to Eydie Romano.... I meant no harm to you in any of my comments and I sincerely and publicly apologize for anything that may have upset you or embarrassed you. I was wrong to say what I said. Hopefully after all of this we can become friends. Perhaps we can set the standard for people putting aside their differences.

Debra Li

Ohhhh GEEZUS....say it ain't so!! C'mon Debra don't go soft NOW. You've been a very good girl here on AZ, but you are without a doubt one of the greatest flamers of all time and I take off my hat (which I don't wear) to acknowledge your skill levels. I don't think very many around here know just how good you are. I was really hoping to retire soon and I can't think of a better successor than you...especially since FL will never be allowed back.
Seriously, you have one of the quickest minds out there (along with FL and myself) that just gets me in stitches when you kick into overdrive. It's great!

 

[TheOne]

Hey Craig, sounds like you had a wicked time with Crosby and Timberly. She's a great laugh, i had a pleasure of meeting her at the 2004 expo when i was just starting out. Me also hope that one day i will be joining you guys for a mega piss up!!!!

Yeah. she's funny as was Tony and Richard. Can't wait until Jan and next Summer now I have a feeling it might be bigger than this year! Just hope I wasn't too late to join you and wimms on the IPT ;-)

We all know that you are making sense so just keep it going....i am sure Fred understands!!!!!!!!!

Well I knew I was never going to win the popular vote, arguing that its easier for snooker players to convert to pool(9 ball in case some didn't read all the posts) than visa versa. After all this is mainly a US majority POOL forum after all. I just tried to explain why that's the way it is, IMO the facts are there to back up the way I and you and many others think. I joined this dabate as I felt I was in a unique position to evaluate both sides from experience. Others came to their opinions without this experience which is fine. However I personally would never have such strong opinions on cue makers for example because I know very little about it, but that's just me.

However as one poster mentioned above it seems that more than a few long time and much respected posters in this forum felt as I did about the way Fred words his arguments.

Anyway, anyone ready for a new debate:

"The barriers of entry of professional 9 ball and snooker in the modern era?"

 

[Timberly]

Hey Craig, sounds like you had a wicked time with Crosby and Timberly. She's a great laugh, i had a pleasure of meeting her at the 2004 expo when i was just starting out. Me also hope that one day i will be joining you guys for a mega piss up!!!!

LEECHENMAN!!!! How are ya stranger?!?! Good to see ya around here. We had a great time in Valley Forge & NYC. Are you going to make it to Valley Forge again this yr?? Gary & I will definitely be there, and possibly Eric. Be sure to let me know the next time you're going to be in the States!

 

[predator]

After all the hype, Ronnie finally starts to play pool in US, but...doesn't get any result!!! Mike Sigel beats him by shocking 9:0 9:0 (chewing gum all the time of course). Next tournament Ronnie nearly wins a match against a female player. Ronnie quits playing altogether after that.

Imagine that scenario! A wet dream for some, LOL.

 

[Gabber]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm....

Yeah. she's funny as was Tony and Richard. Can't wait until Jan and next Summer now I have a feeling it might be bigger than this year! Just hope I wasn't too late to join you and wimms on the IPT ;-)



Well I knew I was never going to win the popular vote, arguing that its easier for snooker players to convert to pool(9 ball in case some didn't read all the posts) than visa versa. After all this is mainly a US majority POOL forum after all. I just tried to explain why that's the way it is, IMO the facts are there to back up the way I and you and many others think. I joined this dabate as I felt I was in a unique position to evaluate both sides from experience. What makes you think that? What makes you think you know more about pool [ 9 ball in case some didn't read all the posts] than any of our American friends on AZ? Others came to their opinions without this experience which is fine.You are absolutely SURE about that? However I personally would never have such strong opinions on cue makers for example because I know very little about it, but that's just me. I hope when you read this post you realise how condescending you are souding.

However as one poster mentioned above it seems that more than a few long time and much respected posters in this forum felt as I did about the way Fred words his arguments.

Anyway, anyone ready for a new debate: There is not much point if you have already decided that you are right and anyone who disagreees with you is wrong. I mean, is there any point?
Here's one. Why dont you kick it off and tell us everything you know about Racking and Breaking- that should be good for a laugh.



"The barriers of entry of professional 9 ball and snooker in the modern era?"

BTW, that snooker v,s pool debate- you know the one where you became hysterical?- you lost. I,m actually leaning to Fred,s side on this one now. I used to think the same as you but YOUR arguments- not Fred,s - changed my mind!!!




Drivermaker and Cuesmith- excellent posts guys.

 

[TheOne]

BTW, that snooker v,s pool debate- you know the one where you became hysterical?- you lost. I,m actually leaning to Fred,s side on this one now. I used to think the same as you but YOUR arguments- not Fred,s - changed my mind!!

LOL, thanks you made my night ;-)

Racking balls, I'm clueless!, but that's the whole point but I guess you missed it. As you also missed the "IMO" and you'll probably never guess why I feel I was in a unquiqe position to compare the TWO games either. "Hysterical", I don't think my jokes where that funny, but thanks!

 

[647km2]

How come the most grown up person here is also the youngest? Well said young man!!!

Thanks mate

 

[straybullet]

Trying to get some DM? I am sure she will accomodate you. She tried to get it on with Fast Larry you know. Just be careful, the Deathstar will rot your thing plum off. That's what I here from private sources.

And also she is a frackin liar. She is the one who calls people's jobs and tries to get them kicked off. She signed Larry up to these gay sites. She is the most wicked *itch you will ever know. If you want to be friends with her, don't say I didn't warn you.

But Debra, didn't you read my post where I welcomed you back.

I welcome Debra back, but I choose to stay as far away from her as possible. She is totally from the dark side bro. Totally.

Heh, Mike, where are you. Isn't Debra Li Starr the one you banned for posting porno pictures? She must have a new IP, or Mike is sleeping

Oh, I don't care. Let her stay on. Welcome her back - just welcome Fast Larry back also.

Debra, if you have so totally squashed everyone, why then am I still on your hate list, especially after I welcomed you back and tried to make peace with you. I didn't mean to beat you up that much.

Dear Mr. Ray

I don't hate you, and I don't hate Laura. I firmly stand on my position where I declare her a bit strange and unorthodox according to anybody's standards, but hate? I don't hate either of you. Personally I think you are a bit of a knucklehead, but you already know that. The pictures that you are referring to, I have no knowledge of. Imagine that. I have absolutely no recollection of any post where you welcomed me back. If you direct me to it, I will read it and either reply in turn, or place it in the same file with every other absurd and nasty thing you have said to me and about me over the years. Also, you are the only person begging to have Larry brought back to any forum. RSB has their own village idiot, I guess here on AZ you must wear that crown. Okay, that was uncalled for, Ray. I apologize to you too.

Drivermaker, I have promised to behave myself in all forums. Every once in a while I might revert back to my old ways if it is necessary, but you should know that I really don't like arguing, and I really do not enjoy confrontation (even though I'm good at it.)

 

[9 Ball Girl]

LOL, thanks you made my night ;-)

Racking balls, I'm clueless!, but that's the whole point but I guess you missed it. As you also missed the "IMO" and you'll probably never guess why I feel I was in a unquiqe position to compare the TWO games either. "Hysterical", I don't think my jokes where that funny, but thanks!

I think Craig and Fred should go at this hombre a hombre. You know, wear tight speedos, have their hair slicked back, rub oil on their torsos so that all muscle definition is illuminated, and then do a 100 yard dash--in slow motion. Oh yeah baby.

 

[Getnbzy]

You know, wear tight speedos, have their hair slicked back, rub oil on their torsos so that all muscle definition is illuminated, and then do a 100 yard dash--in slow motion. Oh yeah baby.

The above described image makes me want to

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[LastTwo]

why then am I still on your hate list

How could anyone NOT hate you? You are the most annoying poster in the history of all message boards Ok ok I'm kidding, I don't hate you, but you say the darndest things sometimes.

 

[LastTwo]

I suggest you read the above and all the posts if you can be bothered, the point is Fred was bashing people and speaking down on them long before I joined the thread. It is something he does here and in other forums. If he thinks I am mocking him he can mock me back, its funny how the mocking excuse only came up after I and others "called him out" for insulting me. To me, mocking can be done in a fun way, especially if (you ever met me) you would realize most of the things I say are sarcastic and mocking but in a fun way. That's a whole different world to calling people thick, and asshole's, etc. etc. I don't know if you're just Fred's buddy or if you where just looking for another excuse to flame me but either way I don't care. You have been bashing me for a while so I expect it from you, but I'll try and ignore you from now on! Fred is welcome back here as far as I'm concerned whenever he likes, I don't think he should have thrown his toys out of his pram and left in the first place but that's upto him.

I don't care for the way Fred reply's to people that don't share his point of veiw and if he really is an intelligent guy then he shouldn't have to resort to calling people names either. Many long time and respected users of this forum have contacted me and seem to agree with this, so don't dare blame me for Fred's attitude towards others!

Craig, that one time where you thought I insulted you, I replied to it later and told you that what I meant was that you are not a top player YET...in other words I think you will be a top player in a short time. When I mentioned your 2 and out in the USOpen, that was because basically you STRONGLY gave the impression that you have no respect for pool players. Come on, if the roles were reversed and you were a pool player and I said all those things that you did, wouldn't you get offended? THAT is what really got me involved in this whole argument, was that I felt you were waving off all of these top pool players like they are nothing, like any snooker player could drill them in 9-ball at will. I am sure this is what set Fred off. You mentioned that you did not mean to be mocking, but you meant to have more of a playful/joking tone. If we were having a conversation in real life instead of over the net, I'm sure that both Fred and I would have understood your gestures and not have taken your attitude to offense. So yes I will admit that I was a little to hasty in automatically thinking you were trying to offend, so for that I apologize. I say we call a truce. Deal?

 

[647km2]

Ok enough of my fighting,now let me sing u guys a song​

You are my sunshine my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear how much I love you
So please don't take my sunshine away

The other night dear as I lay dreaming
I dreamt that you were by my side
Came disillusion when I awoke dear
You were gone and then I cried

You are my sunshine my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear how much I love you
So please don't take my sunshine away

You told me once dear there'd be no other
That no one else could come between
But now you've left me to love another
You have broken all my dreams

You are my sunshine my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear how much I love you
So please don't take my sunshine away​

You can get the rhythm to be played in this website too​

The Rhythm​

 

[LastTwo]

Ok enough of my fighting,now let me sing u guys a song​

You are my sunshine my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear how much I love you
So please don't take my sunshine away

The other night dear as I lay dreaming
I dreamt that you were by my side
Came disillusion when I awoke dear
You were gone and then I cried

You are my sunshine my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear how much I love you
So please don't take my sunshine away

You told me once dear there'd be no other
That no one else could come between
But now you've left me to love another
You have broken all my dreams

You are my sunshine my only sunshine
You make me happy when skies are grey
You'll never know dear how much I love you
So please don't take my sunshine away​

You can get the rhythm to be played in this website too​

The Rhythm​

LOL how long are you going to play this charade of someone who barely speaks english? I've read some of your other posts and you slipped up a little and made quite a few perfect sentences. So who's your alias?

 

[Tickets]

i totally agree!

When I mentioned your 2 and out in the USOpen, that was because basically you STRONGLY gave the impression that you have no respect for pool players.

Its true. While in Vegas, He never appreciated my talent on the pool table. He obviously cant judge a fine, gifted, talented and extremely good looking player. He gave me no respect!

 

[647km2]

English is not my first language anyway,my first language is malay.

 

[drivermaker]

LOL how long are you going to play this charade of someone who barely speaks english? I've read some of your other posts and you slipped up a little and made quite a few perfect sentences. So who's your alias?

14 year old kids living over in Singapore would never know that song either. The song is too old and not on their play list. Even their daddy wouldn't play it.