FS - Predator/Cog shafts

KJ Cues

Pro Cue Builder & Repair
Silver Member
At this time, I am offering Predator shafts custom built to mate & match Cognoscenti cues.
Your choice of any model Predator shaft including the 'FAT' and the no longer manufactured 314, 1st edition. Additional custom services are available at your request.
Shaft on the left is a true Cog. Shaft on the right is my build.
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Price will depend on choice of shaft, starting at $275.
This includes fees & insured s/h in con. US.
 
Pred Cog shafts

PunchOut said:
have you received Mr. Gold's permission to advertise this? i am about to simply buy a cog and even i dont like this post.....

Let me get this right, are you saying that cue makers/repair guys are not allowed to make shafts for Cogs, must also include all other cue manufaturers such a McDermott, Meucci, Schon etc...

get a life and quit trying to cause trouble by putting your foot in your mouth without thinking

just my interpetation of your post

maybe we should all get permission from the cue manufaturers to replace their tips as well.......
 
Ditto! BTW, you couldn't find a better guy to do such work for you. KJ did a 314 convo for my Mickey D and I love it. Bonus time is coming up, so they'll be a few more jobs coming. Just warning you KJ!

Best,
tim
 
Nice ring work KJ. I assume you could also make me one for my Diveney. 3/8x11 with a plain black collar? If so, I will be in touch soon for pricing.
 
PunchOut said:
have you received Mr. Gold's permission to advertise this? i am about to simply buy a cog and even i dont like this post.....

PLEASE edit this post asap. It is 100% inappropriate ((and a non-sense)) :-O
 
PunchOut said:
have you received Mr. Gold's permission to advertise this? i am about to simply buy a cog and even i dont like this post.....
KJ is doing a great service by matching shafts to cues that some cue makers don't want to do or they don't have time to do. He's working on a predator shaft for me now for my South West cue. I'll have my shaft back ready to play within a couple of weeks versus sending it to South West and waiting a long time to get it done.

James
 
KJ made a shaft for my Cognoscenti I just got and it was the best transaction I have ever had buying a shaft. The service was so fast, literally I called him on a Tuesday and had a perfectly matching tapped Z2 shaft by that next Thursday morning. I have talked to Joe Gold many times over the last few months in ordering my cue, he will not make you a Predator shaft and really would prefer you have it made by someone else. I am sure KJ built a ring billet that matches Cogs and has enough left to make some nice shafts for those out there that play with Cog's and like Predator shafts.
 
PunchOut said:
have you received Mr. Gold's permission to advertise this? i am about to simply buy a cog and even i dont like this post.....

:scratchhead: :scratchhead: :scratchhead:
 
well before flaming me, think about it.....this post is pretty much insinuating that people with cog cues will want a laminated shaft. correct me if i am wrong but cue makers make their mark by the hit of their cue and style. this is degrading both showing that he can pretty much replicate Mr. Gold's inlay expertise and on top of that he is thinking that people are going to want a predator after playing with a cog. if he didnt think this, then why would he advertise it?

advertising this is inappropriate IMO without the cue makers permission. doing ring work for other cues is perfectly fine IMO. i am just disagree with using someone's name to profit especially in the custom cue market where reputation is everything.

sorry if i offended anyone.
 
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There is nothing wrong with advertising that you do such work!
KJ is an authorized Predator repair man and he is the man to talk to if you want to match a Predator shaft to any cue that has a non-standard joint and ring work.

How would anybody know that such service is available without some advertising?
He didn't say that he does Cog shafts or SW shafts, he is simply matching Predator shafts for these cues (and others).
 
skor said:
There is nothing wrong with advertising that you do such work!
KJ is an authorized Predator repair man and he is the man to talk to if you want to match a Predator shaft to any cue that has a non-standard joint and ring work.

How would anybody know that such service is available without some advertising?
He didn't say that he does Cog shafts or SW shafts, he is simply matching Predator shafts for these cues (and others).

yeah i am probably over reacting, but i think that i have a valid point although many might not agree with it...which is fine :)
 
PunchOut said:
well before flaming me, think about it.....this post is pretty much insinuating that people with cog cues will want a laminated shaft. correct me if i am wrong but cue makers make their mark by the hit of their cue and style. this is degrading both showing that he can pretty much replicate Mr. Gold's inlay expertise and on top of that he is thinking that people are going to want a predator after playing with a cog. if he didnt think this, then why would he advertise it?

advertising this is inappropriate IMO without the cue makers permission. doing ring work for other cues is perfectly fine IMO. i am just disagree with using someone's name to profit especially in the custom cue market where reputation is everything.

and no i will not delete my post. sorry if i offended anyone.

In my opinion, he did not say nor imply anywhere that you'll want a Predator shaft on your Cog ever. Nor did he say his work is as good as Joe Gold's but hey, Joe Gold is a very good craftsman and KJ is another expert of his craft, hands down.

I can't see where or why is it wrong to say the shaft matches a Cognoscenti? Or a Szamboti? Or anything else?

Should anyone ever ask Brunswick's permission to use a Titlist blank? Does making a cue out of a Titlist cue imply that Titlists are crap? NO way.

Or do you need Herman RamboW's permission to use that short ring above the butt cap - also referred to as Hoppe ring? No. And adding a Rambow / Hoppe ring won't say that that current cue looks better than the old Rambow's. It is an option and yet it is always and everywhere 'advertised' by referring to the late master at Brunswick - and not abusing / desecrating Herman Rambow's legacy.

But if KJ is using Joe Gold's name to advertise his shafts that I am sure everyone else is also advertising their cue's with using Herman Rambow's name? Or is it just fine because Herman Rambow passed in 1967?

What KJ does is something he is very well known for around the world. And has he earned his reputation by any time saying that his mated and matched shafts are better or by copying anyone's work? NO. He earned his reputation by building and matching shafts in a perfect way, does his work in time and prices his work more than reasonably.

No offence here either, much more defence though - not that KJ needs it but because I feel the must of saying this because he or his work doesn't deserve what's been said by you. This is my opinion.
 
poohkiller said:
In my opinion, he did not say nor imply anywhere that you'll want a Predator shaft on your Cog ever. Nor did he say his work is as good as Joe Gold's but hey, Joe Gold is a very good craftsman and KJ is another expert of his craft, hands down.

I can't see where or why is it wrong to say the shaft matches a Cognoscenti? Or a Szamboti? Or anything else?

Should anyone ever ask Brunswick's permission to use a Titlist blank? Does making a cue out of a Titlist cue imply that Titlists are crap? NO way.

Or do you need Herman RamboW's permission to use that short ring above the butt cap - also referred to as Hoppe ring? No. And adding a Rambow / Hoppe ring won't say that that current cue looks better than the old Rambow's. It is an option and yet it is always and everywhere 'advertised' by referring to the late master at Brunswick - and not abusing / desecrating Herman Rambow's legacy.

But if KJ is using Joe Gold's name to advertise his shafts that I am sure everyone else is also advertising their cue's with using Herman Rambow's name? Or is it just fine because Herman Rambow passed in 1967?

What KJ does is something he is very well known for around the world. And has he earned his reputation by any time saying that his mated and matched shafts are better or by copying anyone's work? NO. He earned his reputation by building and matching shafts in a perfect way, does his work in time and prices his work more than reasonably.

No offence here either, much more defence though - not that KJ needs it but because I feel the must of saying this because he or his work doesn't deserve what's been said by you. This is my opinion.

i did not know that matching shafts was his specialty. thank you pookiller for the insight. this makes much more sense now. i wish someone would have told me this instead of flaming me.

in light of this new information i WILL delete my posts.

i apologize KJ for any misfortune i have caused as was not the intention.
 
PunchOut said:
i did not know that matching shafts was his specialty. thank you pookiller for the insight. this makes much more sense now. i wish someone would have told me this instead of flaming me.

in light of this new information i WILL delete my posts.

i apologize KJ for any misfortune i have caused as was not the intention.

You are very welcome and I am very glad that I managed to convince you and this situation is now solved.
 
skor said:
There is nothing wrong with advertising that you do such work!
KJ is an authorized Predator repair man and he is the man to talk to if you want to match a Predator shaft to any cue that has a non-standard joint and ring work.

How would anybody know that such service is available without some advertising?
He didn't say that he does Cog shafts or SW shafts, he is simply matching Predator shafts for these cues (and others).
You are right on the money with this post. KJ is someone that I wish i'd known about years ago for some of the cues i've owned that I needed a shaft matched to. When he finishes my South West predator I have another predator job i'll be sending to him.

James
 
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