FS.... X Breaker Cue

[X Breaker]

I've been using a sledge for a while now and although it jumps great and breaks ok, I hate the sound the tip makes upon contact (sounds/feels like breaking with the top of an old school glass coke bottle. The x-breaker sounds good as far as the tip goes (having more control on the breakshot) but having never seen 1 in person nor hearing any unbiased reviews, I am hesitent to dole out the $350.00 the xtreme site charges + $35.00 shipping??? That seems high as well. Even with the b&b deal your still at almost 3 bills w/ shipping. Guess I'll wait til I hear some opinions.

Dear JR,

It looks like you have some very nice cues in your collection. Is the Tad in the 1000 series?

Since it is a new cue, I understand your concerns whether it is as good as it claims and things like that. If it means anything to you, a lot of professional players were very impressed with the performance of the X Breaker in the World Pool Championship.

I am glad you noticed the sound the tip made in jumping and breaking, if you watch the video on the site, I think that is the biggest difference you will notice when you compare it with videos of other jump break cues. Most people also report that they can jump straighter and have better control with this new Xtreme tip.

About being unbiased, I posted also break and jump videos of regular players on the site. Some of them were just C Players. Some broke well and some didn't; but most of the times the cue ball sat in the middle of the table and the player had a shot on the 1 ball. Most of the players did not buy the X Breaker and they were just trying for fun so the result was quite unbiased in a way.

There will be a booth for the X Breaker in the US Open. It is booth #1. There will be a table right in front of the booth so you are all welcome to try out the cue. I may not be there but you will get all the help you need for sure at the booth regardless

If you have any more question, please do not hestitate to ask me.

Richard

 

[Hidy Ho]

Are you and HKWONG same person? Because HKWONG is the originator of the thread. He and another userid have been "pimping" Corey Duel's XBreaker on AZ board for awhile.

I'm assuming you are the builder of X-Breaker??? I think the thread is about the selling price of x-breaker listed on eBay being high in comparison to new ones available through you or other resellers.

And I perceive your continued responses on this thread as being "defensive".

Dear Chad,

Now, this section is meant for advertising something that someone has for sale. And my post was not unsolicitated; it was posted in response to your claim that the cue "was too expensive' and that you could not "see any differences" and that you were "disappointed." When you make such claims and statement about a cue and you call any response from the cuemaker "pimping" you are not being fair.



You do not have to defend your purchase, if you like yours, I am happy for you.

I am not interested to build a cue which is "just fine," I want my customers to have the best jump break cue. Some people are happy with "just fine" but I am not.



I did not offer any Corey's face autographed, you must have had me confused with someone else.

If the X Breaker is beyond your budget or if you are more comfortable with waiting, you should.

There is no need for you to explain to me why you are not buying the X Breaker. And there is no need for you to attack me or the X Breaker either.



Believe me or not, I have had a lot of Azers asking me to send them a cue so they will write me a review.

I am sold out right now. Besides, it is not our policy to give our cues out to amateur players. I am very sorry. Thank you for the offer.

If a review is so important, I will try to see if any professional player would be willing to write a review of the X Breaker.

Richard

 

[deadstroke32]

Are you and HKWONG same person? Because HKWONG is the originator of the thread. He and another userid have been "pimping" Corey Duel's XBreaker on AZ board for awhile.

I'm assuming you are the builder of X-Breaker??? I think the thread is about the selling price of x-breaker listed on eBay being high in comparison to new ones available through you or other resellers.

And I perceive your continued responses on this thread as being "defensive".

To pay that much for a j/b cue is nuts .So what if CD used one .But it don't make it a better q ? NOPE if the q was a $ 50 no name q .that does the same as all the other, alot of people will be all on it .it's a b/j q .No big deal ..But 300 or 350 .is nuts .. sorry that will never happen ..

 

[Getnbzy]

Dear JR,

It looks like you have some very nice cues in your collection. Is the Tad in the 1000 series?

Since it is a new cue, I understand your concerns whether it is as good as it claims and things like that. If it means anything to you, a lot of professional players were very impressed with the performance of the X Breaker in the World Pool Championship.

I am glad you noticed the sound the tip made in jumping and breaking, if you watch the video on the site, I think that is the biggest difference you will notice when you compare it with videos of other jump break cues. Most people also report that they can jump straighter and have better control with this new Xtreme tip.

About being unbiased, I posted also break and jump videos of regular players on the site. Some of them were just C Players. Some broke well and some didn't; but most of the times the cue ball sat in the middle of the table and the player had a shot on the 1 ball. Most of the players did not buy the X Breaker and they were just trying for fun so the result was quite unbiased in a way.

There will be a booth for the X Breaker in the US Open. It is booth #1. There will be a table right in front of the booth so you are all welcome to try out the cue. I may not be there but you will get all the help you need for sure at the booth regardless

If you have any more question, please do not hestitate to ask me.

Richard

Hello richard,
I don't have it front of me at the moment but what do you mean by " in the 1000 series"? I know a fair amount about TAD cues, but if you could share any and all knowledge of them that you have, as well as the man himself I would love to hear it. Thanks
J.R.

 

[Shorty]

Dear Chad,
I am sold out right now. Besides, it is not our policy to give our cues out to amateur players. I am very sorry. Thank you for the offer.

Let me get this straight...you are sold out, but yet you are about to go to the US Open with no cues?

And as far as me being labeled a "pro"...that's hogwash. I can go find you three amateur pool players that make more than 90% of the pros on the tour...they are called road players...and they are truly world beaters that fly under radar. That "pro" label is absurd. And for the record, I have played in a "pro" tournament sponsored by McDermott back in 1995, to include having my "pro" card.

You PM'd me out of the clear blue over a month ago pushing these dern cues on me then...on here. I didn't appreciate it then, and I don't appreciate it now. Evidently you don't want ANYBODY from this board to get one of your cues and do a quality check on it. If they were indeed so great, Corey would not be selling the cue. There is no wonder cue when it comes to breaking...the Sledgehammer was probably the best innovation to come out for breaking in many years.

I will tell you just like I told the guy from Stinger, your cue is overpriced for a production break cue trying to be a custom cue. Stick with what you are and quit trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

And for the life of me I can't figure out why this guy needs 310 for a cue he got supposedly for free? I would be happy with 20 bucks personally. Hmmmmm.

Thank you,
Shorty

 

[pooldogue]

Let me get this straight...you are sold out, but yet you are about to go to the US Open with no cues?

And as far as me being labeled a "pro"...that's hogwash. I can go find you three amateur pool players that make more than 90% of the pros on the tour...they are called road players...and they are truly world beaters that fly under radar. That "pro" label is absurd. And for the record, I have played in a "pro" tournament sponsored by McDermott back in 1995, to include having my "pro" card.

You PM'd me out of the clear blue over a month ago pushing these dern cues on me then...on here. I didn't appreciate it then, and I don't appreciate it now. Evidently you don't want ANYBODY from this board to get one of your cues and do a quality check on it. If they were indeed so great, Corey would not be selling the cue. There is no wonder cue when it comes to breaking...the Sledgehammer was probably the best innovation to come out for breaking in many years.

I will tell you just like I told the guy from Stinger, your cue is overpriced for a production break cue trying to be a custom cue. Stick with what you are and quit trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

And for the life of me I can't figure out why this guy needs 310 for a cue he got supposedly for free? I would be happy with 20 bucks personally. Hmmmmm.

Thank you,
Shorty

Hey Shorty, sounds like he "might" not be"sold" out of them and hes trying not only to defend them but to be "sold" out of them............

 

[jhendri2]

When I read what hkwong wrote...the x-breaker doesn't get a resounding endorsement...

this cue was a gift from jennifer chen in taiwan at the WPC

So Jennifer Chen didn't like it and gave it to Corey Duel

X breaker Cue for sale. this cue was owned by Corey Deuel.

Corey Duel didn't like and decided to sell it. Or maybe he just needs the money This is a good enough review for me...

Good luck in your business, but you're making more people angry by spamming all the time and posting the link for the video, web page, forum or whatever. Why not let your product speak for itself?

Take a cue from Jim Murnak and Jack Justis. They had contests/give aways to promote their new products and to get their name out there, they didn't constantly spam every chance they got.

Jim

 

[Shorty]

Take a cue from Jim Murnak and Jack Justis. They had contests/give aways to promote their new products and to get their name out there, they didn't constantly spam every chance they got.

Jim

*tap tap tap*

Well said Jim,
Shorty

 

[Nostroke]

*tap tap tap*

Well said Jim,
Shorty

I have to disagree-That guy selling the cases spammed evey chance he got on the General Discussion Board. I dont think answering questions and pumping your cue on a relevant thread in the For Sale Board is out of line at all.

 

[jhendri2]

I think Mike deleted Nippon's spam threads in the General Section. Nippon has tried to get members of this forum to join his (very disrespectful). The difference between Justis/Murnak and Nippon is they were giving back to the membership, not just spamming. Murnak and Justis brought in members, they didn't try to get them to join their own forum.

I certainly don't have a problem with Nipon selling his cues on here (like what I say really matters). I'm just tired of Mike being taken advantage of. He sells ad space, if dealers want to buy ad space and then post cues for sale in this section (like Cornerstone), to me that's fair.

Since I don't own the board, my opinion on this doesn't really matter, but I think we should all look out for our hosts best interest.

Jim

 

[Matt_24]

Let me get this straight...you are sold out, but yet you are about to go to the US Open with no cues?

And as far as me being labeled a "pro"...that's hogwash. I can go find you three amateur pool players that make more than 90% of the pros on the tour...they are called road players...and they are truly world beaters that fly under radar. That "pro" label is absurd. And for the record, I have played in a "pro" tournament sponsored by McDermott back in 1995, to include having my "pro" card.

You PM'd me out of the clear blue over a month ago pushing these dern cues on me then...on here. I didn't appreciate it then, and I don't appreciate it now. Evidently you don't want ANYBODY from this board to get one of your cues and do a quality check on it. If they were indeed so great, Corey would not be selling the cue. There is no wonder cue when it comes to breaking...the Sledgehammer was probably the best innovation to come out for breaking in many years.

I will tell you just like I told the guy from Stinger, your cue is overpriced for a production break cue trying to be a custom cue. Stick with what you are and quit trying to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

And for the life of me I can't figure out why this guy needs 310 for a cue he got supposedly for free? I would be happy with 20 bucks personally. Hmmmmm.

Thank you,
Shorty

You make some great points Shorty! The only "product" I could honestly recommend to improve your break is the "BREAKRAK". Don Purdy can tell you more about it as I've tried it out at his house. After practicing on it my break improved quite a bit. I only break with a house stick..and break "pretty" sporty. I usually make a ball and stick that cue ball right in the center of the table. It's not hitting em' super hard..it is knowing WHERE to hit the one ball.

Matt

 

[X Breaker]

Hello richard,
I don't have it front of me at the moment but what do you mean by " in the 1000 series"? I know a fair amount about TAD cues, but if you could share any and all knowledge of them that you have, as well as the man himself I would love to hear it. Thanks
J.R.

Dear JR,

If you remove the bumper of your TAD, you should see a serial number on the butt end. For an older Tad in the 80's, usually the number is in the 1000's but the newer ones go to 2000's.

Thank you.

Richard

 

[X Breaker]

Are you and HKWONG same person? Because HKWONG is the originator of the thread. He and another userid have been "pimping" Corey Duel's XBreaker on AZ board for awhile.

I'm assuming you are the builder of X-Breaker??? I think the thread is about the selling price of x-breaker listed on eBay being high in comparison to new ones available through you or other resellers.

And I perceive your continued responses on this thread as being "defensive".

I do not know HK Wong.

Yes I am the builder of the X Breaker.

 

[X Breaker]

When I read what hkwong wrote...the x-breaker doesn't get a resounding endorsement...



So Jennifer Chen didn't like it and gave it to Corey Duel



Corey Duel didn't like and decided to sell it. Or maybe he just needs the money This is a good enough review for me...

Good luck in your business, but you're making more people angry by spamming all the time and posting the link for the video, web page, forum or whatever. Why not let your product speak for itself?

Take a cue from Jim Murnak and Jack Justis. They had contests/give aways to promote their new products and to get their name out there, they didn't constantly spam every chance they got.

Jim

Sorry Jim if I offended you. I have put a lot into designing the X Breaker and I honestly believe it is the best jump break cue out there. When I read that someone who has never held one in his hand saying in public that he is "disappointed" in the quality, I felt the need to clarify the misunderstanding. I hope you can understand that.


As far as Jennifer Chen goes, she is still using the X Breaker, she paid for one and gave it to Corey as a gift, and Corey used it in the WPC. He has a cue sponsor now so he can no longer used it. These has been discussed in this forum before.

Jack is a real gentleman and a good friend. I agree with you that they are doing a great job giving to the members of this forum. I will think about what you said.

I am sold out on my cues now, but I am building some more for the show.

Thank you for your advice.

 

[jhendri2]

Richard,

I must say, that was a class act response to my criticism. I think if you continually show the same class with everything you do in business, you will be very successful.

BTW, I am/was not offended. I just don't want to see our host being taken advantage of. There's something to be said about being a gracious guest.

JIm

 

[Getnbzy]

Dear JR,

If you remove the bumper of your TAD, you should see a serial number on the butt end. For an older Tad in the 80's, usually the number is in the 1000's but the newer ones go to 2000's.

Thank you.

Richard

The number 1320 is stamped under the bumper. So you have no additional/extra info. or stories on TAD cues or the man himself. Oh well just thought I'd ask again.

 

[hkwong]

Not Free

first of all hkwong and nipponbilliards are not the same person. the previous post was from one of corey's friends. now and again this cue was NOT FREE not free NOT FREE. like i said before, it was giving to corey as a gift from jennifer chen that she PAID FOR. the reason why he ask 310 for the cue is for the market value. if corey where to sell it at 200 then he would be lowering the market value. by leaving around the 300 range he gets the value of the cue and also doesn't lower the expectations of other potential buyers. just to be safe though this cue was for sale from corey deuel. no way is corey deuel affilliated with nipponbilliards. the reason again that corey wants to sell it is that he has his own line of cues woodpecker. also woodpecker is not mad at him for using another cue.

 

[X Breaker]

The number 1320 is stamped under the bumper. So you have no additional/extra info. or stories on TAD cues or the man himself. Oh well just thought I'd ask again.

That is what I thought since the earlier 80's TAD usually had the 1000 serial numbers.

Well, I collect Tad cues myself and I have one which is unmarked. It was a Harvery Martin model with a red ring. The cue was built in the 70's. I like 8 pointers Tad with the 1000's serial numbers. They are in Japan now.

A lot of people say Tad deflects a lot but I like them and I think they are very solid and well balanced cues.

Tad's shafts are probably the best seasoned. He takes on average six years to turn his blanks. I have never seen a warped Tad shaft. I have seen warped shafts when I was in Asia from a lot of name brand cue makers but Tad's shafts hold up against the high humidity amazingly well.

He disgarded a lot of wood in his storage and only picked out the best of the best for his shafts.

I love Tad because I like his workmanship and his designs. I think they are truly amazing!

The Taiwanese player , Po Cheng Kuo, who came second this year in the WPC, plays with a Tad.

Regards,
Richard

 

[shinobi]

first of all hkwong and nipponbilliards are not the same person. the previous post was from one of corey's friends. now and again this cue was NOT FREE not free NOT FREE. like i said before, it was giving to corey as a gift from jennifer chen that she PAID FOR. the reason why he ask 310 for the cue is for the market value. if corey where to sell it at 200 then he would be lowering the market value. by leaving around the 300 range he gets the value of the cue and also doesn't lower the expectations of other potential buyers. just to be safe though this cue was for sale from corey deuel. no way is corey deuel affilliated with nipponbilliards. the reason again that corey wants to sell it is that he has his own line of cues woodpecker. also woodpecker is not mad at him for using another cue.

Corey Deuel is one of my favorite players to watch. He's hugely creative and talented. Good luck with the sale, Corey! I hope you get top dollar for your cue.