Full Splice vs Half Splice

Chicken_Blood

Chicken_Blood

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Is there a difference in hit between a full splice cue and a half splice cue? I have several friends that have full splice cues (Bear, Hercek, etc) each of these friends swear nothing hits like a full splice. I currently play with a Jerico & just picked up a Cognoscenti that hits better than anything I have ever tried.

Opinions?
 
Scientifically Proven Fact-not Opinion

Chicken_Blood said:
Is there a difference in hit between a full splice cue and a half splice cue? I have several friends that have full splice cues (Bear, Hercek, etc) each of these friends swear nothing hits like a full splice. I currently play with a Jerico & just picked up a Cognoscenti that hits better than anything I have ever tried.

Opinions?
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It is a scientifically proven fact that a true full splice cue is the best tool for the job. I didn't prove it, but Burton Spain was responsible for bringing out the scientific proof in his thesis to the Mensa Society. Notable cue makers even knew it before, but he documented it. Mr. Hercek and Mr. Bear are both at the top of their game making full splice cues on a full time basis. I doubt seriously if you could get Joel to take another order due to the (i was told) 9 year wait. He has recently referred customers to Mark Bear. I play with one of Mark's full splices with his own laminated shaft, and i have no plans to look any farther. It is the best tool for the job! Good luck with your game, REB
 
Hey Reb,
Is there any chance you could post a pic of your Mark Bear Cue?? I'd love to see as many of his designs as I can. Just e-mailed him today about his cues..
Dan
 
REB said:
It is a scientifically proven fact that a true full splice cue is the best tool for the job. I didn't prove it, but Burton Spain was responsible for bringing out the scientific proof in his thesis to the Mensa Society. Notable cue makers even knew it before, but he documented it. Mr. Hercek and Mr. Bear are both at the top of their game making full splice cues on a full time basis. I doubt seriously if you could get Joel to take another order due to the (i was told) 9 year wait. He has recently referred customers to Mark Bear. I play with one of Mark's full splices with his own laminated shaft, and i have no plans to look any farther. It is the best tool for the job! Good luck with your game, REB
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I am afraid I am a bit confused here. Just exactly how did Burton Spain prove that a full spliced cue is the best tool for the job to make it a "scientifically proven" fact?

I have tried a lot of half spiced and CNC cues that hit very solid, just to name a few, Southwest, Cognoscenti, Paul Mottey, Bender, Layani, Richard Harris, Gina, Bobby Hunter, Tim Scruggs, Mike Capone, Keith Josey...etc.

I am of the opinion that if a cue is well constructed and well balanced, it will perform well. Full splicing is one way of making a well constructed blank, but why is it the best?

Besides, the full spliced blank does not in itself warrant a nice balance.

Joel Hercek is a master and he makes some top notch cues. I have tried his cues and they hit great--the butt was a bit on the fat side for my little hand unfortunately.

I am wondering with all the technology advancements, why is it that people still believe only full spliced can produce the most solid hitting cue?

Could you please share with us how Burton Spain proved his point to make this a scientifically proven fact?

Thank you.

Tiff
 
Tiffpoolbum said:
Joel Hercek is a master and he makes some top notch cues. I have tried his cues and they hit great--the butt was a bit on the fat side for my little hand unfortunately.

Tiff
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Yes, he is a master. The one(s) you tried might have been that way because if it isn't specified when making the cue, that's his style. But then again, everyone doesn't have a little hand. When your name comes up on the "wait list", he goes through a very thorough questioning process.
"What kind of taper do you like...what tip size...ss or ivory joint...irish linen or leather, and what size butt." He'll take it down as thin as you want if that's the preference. And, they DO hit great.
 
drivermaker said:
Yes, he is a master. The one(s) you tried might have been that way because if it isn't specified when making the cue, that's his style. But then again, everyone doesn't have a little hand. When your name comes up on the "wait list", he goes through a very thorough questioning process.
"What kind of taper do you like...what tip size...ss or ivory joint...irish linen or leather, and what size butt." He'll take it down as thin as you want if that's the preference. And, they DO hit great.
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Better than a production CNC-pointed cue???? :rolleyes:
Sorry. Couldn't resist. :D
 
drivermaker said:
That's OK...I got 'em all. Productions and Herceks, that's why I can make accurate comparisons and assessments. :p
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"HercekS". Meaning more than one. Meaning that you are hoarding them. Meaning you need to sell one to me at a reasonable price. Meaning I'll be more educated after getting it. Meaning you've helped the world. Get my meaning? :D
 
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drivermaker said:
That's OK...I got 'em all. Productions and Herceks, that's why I can make accurate comparisons and assessments. :p
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but can you play???............LOL

sorry, had to start shit...... :D

VAP
 
ScottR said:
"HercekS". Meaning more than one. Meaning that you are hoarding them. Meaning you need to sell one to me at a reasonable price. Meaning I'll be more educated after getting it. Meaning you've helped the world. Get my meaning? :D
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You mean...you're crazy or sumthin'? NO!! You have good reading skills to pick up on the plural. PM your email address to me and I'll send pics. That's as close as you'll come, and you just might do that also. :D
 
vapoolplayer said:
i'll let landshark handle my lightwork on this one........... :D
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I think she got tangled up somewhere in a fish net. However if she didn't....

LS77....will your mommy let you come outside and play with me today??
 
Tiffpoolbum said:
I am afraid I am a bit confused here. Just exactly how did Burton Spain prove that a full spliced cue is the best tool for the job to make it a "scientifically proven" fact?


I am of the opinion that if a cue is well constructed and well balanced, it will perform well. Full splicing is one way of making a well constructed blank, but why is it the best?

Thank you.

Tiff
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i don't believe in these "scientific" findings......and in POOL, of all places. but of the dozens upon dozens upon dozens of cues i've tried,,,,,those made with titleist blanks were by far the best hitting cues. those titleists made even some average cuemakers produce great hitting cues.

they kind of "resonate" really well, and i could feel it through the whole cue,,,,almost as if there were no impedence to the feel. and,,,ultimately, they simply stroked better, and the action was superior.

it is no coincidence that the best hitting cue from cuemaker xxx was built from a titleist.
 
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