Galveston World Classic "Choices"

D C 6 Pocket

D C 6 Pocket

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I have read several posts about this tournament that compelled me to write this one.

As a business man I take this attitude………..it’s their money, if they want to put it in a pile and burn it, it’s still their money. It’s their idea; they can make all of the decisions and run it any way they want. They are taking ALL of the risk involved with this business venture and I haven’t seen a post where they have ask me or any AZ fans to invest a dime in their project. If they stopped today, what have we the potential customer lost compared to what they stand to loose?

As a player/spectator, I take this attitude………I absolutely have the choice to either support their efforts by playing/attending or I can choose to stay home and not risk one dime of my hard earned money. I can choose to believe what they have published or not. I can choose to pick it appart or go with it. To me, it’s not about how or why they are doing things the way they are but it’s the fact…….at least they are doing something, right or wrong, that has a chance to improve the sport of billiards……….although I think much of their success depends a lot on people like us and how we react to their efforts.

I can make this statement, this guy is going to do everything I possibly can to support this business venture and hope there are many more like me.:smile: I'll see you there I hope!
 
D C 6 Pocket said:
I have read several posts about this tournament that compelled me to write this one.

As a business man I take this attitude………..it’s their money, if they want to put it in a pile and burn it, it’s still their money. It’s their idea; they can make all of the decisions and run it any way they want. They are taking ALL of the risk involved with this business venture and I haven’t seen a post where they have ask me or any AZ fans to invest a dime in their project. If they stopped today, what have we the potential customer lost compared to what they stand to loose?

As a player/spectator, I take this attitude………I absolutely have the choice to either support their efforts by playing/attending or I can choose to stay home and not risk one dime of my hard earned money. I can choose to believe what they have published or not. I can choose to pick it appart or go with it. To me, it’s not about how or why they are doing things the way they are but it’s the fact…….at least they are doing something, right or wrong, that has a chance to improve the sport of billiards……….although I think much of their success depends a lot on people like us and how we react to their efforts.

I can make this statement, this guy is going to do everything I possibly can to support this business venture and hope there are many more like me.:smile: I'll see you there I hope!
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Yep. My thoughts exactly!:smile:
 
largely agree, strongly disagree on one point

For the most part I agree with what you are saying, their money, their show. However, I strongly disagree with the statements that nobody else has an investment in the event. Every person that has a job is being asked to give up a major chunk of their vacation to come. With discretionary income getting to be less and less for many there is no small expense involved to go to Galveston for days or over a week too. So while most will stay away, all are being asked to invest quite a bit of their time and money in this event.

Until recently the pro's were being asked to invest in a pig in a poke too because there was no indication that second down would pay expenses to come play much less a reasonable compensation for the time invested for the people that placed well but not first. There can only be one first place winner, everyone else was flying blind and still is to a large degree.

I have stuck my neck out a bit and been supportive of this event for the most part. Those that have, including yourself, are putting a bit of your personal reputation on the line and unless you have more solid info than the rest of us then we are all at risk.

I don't claim that others are risking as much as the promoters but they are definitely asking us all to risk varying amounts of time and money. Those that risk reputation are doing it by their own choice but if this thing is seen as a raw deal by the players then every supporter will be tarred with the same brush as the promoters.

I wish them well and plan to spend some dollars with them. However, they need to realize that this is a two way street and in total the players and public are being asked to risk quite a bit more than the promoters are risking. A little information would go a long ways towards encouraging everyone to do so.

Hu





D C 6 Pocket said:
I have read several posts about this tournament that compelled me to write this one.

As a business man I take this attitude………..it’s their money, if they want to put it in a pile and burn it, it’s still their money. It’s their idea; they can make all of the decisions and run it any way they want. They are taking ALL of the risk involved with this business venture and I haven’t seen a post where they have ask me or any AZ fans to invest a dime in their project. If they stopped today, what have we the potential customer lost compared to what they stand to loose?

As a player/spectator, I take this attitude………I absolutely have the choice to either support their efforts by playing/attending or I can choose to stay home and not risk one dime of my hard earned money. I can choose to believe what they have published or not. I can choose to pick it appart or go with it. To me, it’s not about how or why they are doing things the way they are but it’s the fact…….at least they are doing something, right or wrong, that has a chance to improve the sport of billiards……….although I think much of their success depends a lot on people like us and how we react to their efforts.

I can make this statement, this guy is going to do everything I possibly can to support this business venture and hope there are many more like me.:smile: I'll see you there I hope!
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Your post started out kinda harsh but you did finish strong. Unfortuntely I will not be at this event due to my hawaii vacation two weeks ago. I am just tapped right now.

I would strongly encourage alot of the better regional players from the Viking tour to the Predator tour and Joss, Desert Classic and GSBT tours as well to attend to see how they measure up. I know all the heavy hitters from the Fast eddies Tour will be their. I honestly think this would be great opportunity for alot of good regional players to compare them selves to other regions in the country. Wouldn't it be fun to have like a billiard regional tour playoff? Well this could be the next best thing.

Also Texas is a great place to go and the recession has really hit Texas the least. Of all the states in financial trouble Texas had a positive budget this year of 8 billion I believe. So hotels and food shouldn't be to pricey. I am just trying to give everyone out there something to consider and think about it.
 
Brad Pitt for mayor of New Orleans

D C 6 Pocket said:
I have read several posts about this tournament that compelled me to write this one.

I can choose to believe what they have published or not. I can choose to pick it appart or go with it. To me, it’s not about how or why they are doing things the way they are but it’s the fact…….at least they are doing something, right or wrong, that has a chance to improve the sport of billiards……….although I think much of their success depends a lot on people like us and how we react to their efforts.
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DC 6 pocket,
I agree with most of your post and while I agree that you have the right to choose to pick their promotion apart, simply because you have the right to speak your mind but if you love pool and want to support the efforts of new promoters who have no history of being flim-flam people, there is no need for the constant pot-shots that have been rifled at the promoters, (all the while being camoflauged with similar comments like, "I hope this tournament comes out all fight").

The people who disparage these promoters efforts do pool nor their own personal agenda any good.

If you don't want to support this event or if you hope that it won't be successful for any particular reason, just stay home.

Maybe the event will be successful, maybe it won't. (They plan on having others and I'm sure they will improve with each effort) Since these guys have already invested A HUGE SUM OF MONEY and put their personal reputations on the line, I think the Main Forum should be supporting their efforts, warts and all.

I think Galveston, TX needs our help. I know when New Orleans was beat down during Katrina, people from all over the world, opened their wallets to help us out. That compassion for our city and my appreciation for the state of affairs in Galveston moves me to do my part in helping them pull out of their situation.

Trust me, it means a lot to a community for people who don't even know you to have faith in you and to believe that you are worth helping.

I doubt if a pool tournament has ever been held at such an entertainment complex. Moody Gardens looks specatcular with all of the different entertainment that they provide. From the website, there is a lot more than just pool going on and something for the whole family to enjoy.

See you at the tournament DC 6 pocket!

(Thanks Brad for everything you've done for our city!)
JoeyA
 
Not to belittle your point, but Galveston just received over $600,000 in aid, this week.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

JoeyA said:
I think Galveston, TX needs our help. I know when New Orleans was beat down during Katrina, people from all over the world, opened their wallets to help us out. That compassion for our city and my appreciation for the state of affairs in Galveston moves me to do my part in helping them pull out of their situation.
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ShootingArts said:
For the most part I agree with what you are saying, their money, their show. However, I strongly disagree with the statements that nobody else has an investment in the event. Every person that has a job is being asked to give up a major chunk of their vacation to come. With discretionary income getting to be less and less for many there is no small expense involved to go to Galveston for days or over a week too. So while most will stay away, all are being asked to invest quite a bit of their time and money in this event. Hu
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I agree 100% with your explination of the risk for everyone else. :thumbup: Yes there is absolutly many things to think about when making a decision about time off, travel money and other related expenses. So I guess the risk for us is, it's a lousy tournament, it's a scam, they don't pay deep enough to cover our expenses, their in-expierenced, they don't suply enough information, they..........on and on.

OK, I'll put it this way, we still have a choice of weather to take this risk or not based on what we do know, it's too late for them, they have already made a pretty serious commitment.

I'm not going to knock them because IMO they havent supplied enough information to satisfy me..........I'm just simply going to make a personal choice to go or not, based on what information I do have. I'm going.:smile:
 
You gotta crawl before you walk. I cant think of an instance where a first time event started out as an extravaganza. They need at least 2 or 3 barrels and hopefully they have them.

That being said I'm gonna commit some kind of mortal sin and say I do wish them luck and the kind of success that will lead them to #2 and #3.
 
I'm planning to be there too

D C 6 Pocket said:
I agree 100% with your explination of the risk for everyone else. :thumbup: Yes there is absolutly many things to think about when making a decision about time off, travel money and other related expenses. So I guess the risk for us is, it's a lousy tournament, it's a scam, they don't pay deep enough to cover our expenses, their in-expierenced, they don't suply enough information, they..........on and on.

OK, I'll put it this way, we still have a choice of weather to take this risk or not based on what we do know, it's too late for them, they have already made a pretty serious commitment.

I'm not going to knock them because IMO they havent supplied enough information to satisfy me..........I'm just simply going to make a personal choice to go or not, based on what information I do have. I'm going.:smile:
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I'm planning to be there too. As newcomers in the promotion area who are trying to do great things for pool I would like to do everything I can to help them including helping get the word out about the event and encouraging others to come.

There is a problem though: I can make decisions for myself based on my assessment of the risk. I'm fairly certain this event will be a success from the players viewpoint. I'm not sure enough to put my reputation on the line further than I already have to help promote the event simply because of lack of information. I can't help wishing that they would put a few planks under the feet of those that are trying to help them. At risk of sounding like a politician, they need to help us help them.

I hear a lot of good, even great things about the people behind it and the event. However, everything I hear is third and fourth hand information. If these things are true we should all be hearing them straight from the horse's mouth. There are many places besides internet forums to put this information out. Surely there is somewhere they could list basic information about the event, how about their own website where they have total control?

Hu
 
the first great tournie out of Johnson city only had about 16 people. But the next year it was a massive success. Something to think about.
 
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