Gambling Quarrels
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i once got stiffed out a $50 when i walked right through this guys who offered me an insanly amount of weight that he knew he couldn't win with. when i went to go collect he said watever and proceed to walk out. the sad part is that while he may have had a couple to many beers in him, my buddys had a couple more. so needless to say they were more than willing to go out and collect the beer money for the rest of the night...
I shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die.
but I have had to swing once or twice over shooting folks with a poor losers attitude! 
I've never personally been involved in more than a minor argument over it. I guess I've been lucky. I've been aired a few times...but I never figured that money was worth getting someone (particularly myself) hurt over. I just made sure that everyone I knew was aware that person wouldn't pay...so they'd have a hard time getting another game.
I have seen a BUNCH of fights over the years over gambling, though. 99% of them were over $5 or $10 9-ball games. The worst one I can recall was in Alabama about 30-something years ago. One guy hit the other in the side of the head with the butt of a cue and killed him...over a cheap 9-ball game.
On the subject of temper tantrums, I guess everyone has seen someone break their cue over a bad shot..I just saw a guy break one last week. Once I saw a guy break the OTHER guy's cue...now that was comedy. Of course a fight shortly ensued....but that's the only time I've seen someone grab the other guy's cue and break it.
I have seen a BUNCH of fights over the years over gambling, though. 99% of them were over $5 or $10 9-ball games. The worst one I can recall was in Alabama about 30-something years ago. One guy hit the other in the side of the head with the butt of a cue and killed him...over a cheap 9-ball game.
On the subject of temper tantrums, I guess everyone has seen someone break their cue over a bad shot..I just saw a guy break one last week. Once I saw a guy break the OTHER guy's cue...now that was comedy. Of course a fight shortly ensued....but that's the only time I've seen someone grab the other guy's cue and break it.
During a local tournament, I was extremely, and I mean extremely high. I was playing this guy who was kind of drunk, and talking a lot of trash to me. I told my friends I was going to let the match go hill-hill. Needless to say, the match did go hill-hill, and my first chance at the table I comboed the 2-9 for the win. He didn't shake my hand. . . so I shot him in the toe.
AceHigh said:
someone tell me again........why does pool have a bad image?
VAP
Yep that would be one! 
OldHasBeen
Tom Ferry
I once........
When I was about 20, I was playing pool every night on a 3X6 bar table close to my house. One Friday night I beat this fellow out of $60 and he said he was broke but asked me if I would take a check. I said sure. I won another $50 and he gave me a check. I cashed the check at a grocery store and it came back on Thursday, NSF. I went back to the bar Fri night and the fellow came in about the same time he always did on Fri nights. I USED to think I was a tough guy, so I got really pissed at him and asked him to step out back in the alley. He said, I have your $50 (cash) right here but if that’s what you want, OK.
As soon as we closed the back door, I got hit so many times, so hard, that I thought I was fighting at least 3 guys. This went on for almost 30 seconds and I found myself on my hands & knees with him coming at me like he was going to kick my head like a football kickoff.
VERY LUCKELY - I saw a 2X4 that was being used to keep an old derelict car from rolling anywhere. I grabbed it and took a wild swing at him as he came in to kick me. I caught him Right Square on the chin and I remember seeing his jaw looking like it was coming off his face.
The fight was over and we both agreed to go across the street to St. Luke's Hospital to get repaired. I had about 25 stitches (only 3 at any one place) and he had his broken jaw set and wired shut.
We both went back to the bar, sat & bought each other beers and became good friends. During our conversation, I found out what he did for a living.
HE WAS THE JUDO & KARATE INSTRUCTOR AT A LOCAL HEALTH CLUB (Norm Sanders) WE USED TO HAVE HERE IN ST. LOUIS.
That was THE END of me thinking I was a "Touch-Hog".
That was 39 years ago and that’s the way fights were. No guns, knifes or lasting feuds. Just do it, get it out of your system and win, lose or draw, IT'S OVER!
TY & GL
When I was about 20, I was playing pool every night on a 3X6 bar table close to my house. One Friday night I beat this fellow out of $60 and he said he was broke but asked me if I would take a check. I said sure. I won another $50 and he gave me a check. I cashed the check at a grocery store and it came back on Thursday, NSF. I went back to the bar Fri night and the fellow came in about the same time he always did on Fri nights. I USED to think I was a tough guy, so I got really pissed at him and asked him to step out back in the alley. He said, I have your $50 (cash) right here but if that’s what you want, OK.
As soon as we closed the back door, I got hit so many times, so hard, that I thought I was fighting at least 3 guys. This went on for almost 30 seconds and I found myself on my hands & knees with him coming at me like he was going to kick my head like a football kickoff.
VERY LUCKELY - I saw a 2X4 that was being used to keep an old derelict car from rolling anywhere. I grabbed it and took a wild swing at him as he came in to kick me. I caught him Right Square on the chin and I remember seeing his jaw looking like it was coming off his face.
The fight was over and we both agreed to go across the street to St. Luke's Hospital to get repaired. I had about 25 stitches (only 3 at any one place) and he had his broken jaw set and wired shut.
We both went back to the bar, sat & bought each other beers and became good friends. During our conversation, I found out what he did for a living.
HE WAS THE JUDO & KARATE INSTRUCTOR AT A LOCAL HEALTH CLUB (Norm Sanders) WE USED TO HAVE HERE IN ST. LOUIS.
That was THE END of me thinking I was a "Touch-Hog".
That was 39 years ago and that’s the way fights were. No guns, knifes or lasting feuds. Just do it, get it out of your system and win, lose or draw, IT'S OVER!
TY & GL
Sadly the young "guns"......
No longer believe any fight is fair so they would rather shoot you and be done with it ! Even sadly over $5-10 dollar bar bets sometimes less! At least where I come from!
Hell! a month ago I witnessed two friends! get into it because one was talking to the other during a game and the player got sneaked with a beer bottle upside his head when he complained!!! 
This is why I play in tounaments and leave the bar betting alone ! I am too old to be going to jail over BS!
OldHasBeen said:
No longer believe any fight is fair so they would rather shoot you and be done with it ! Even sadly over $5-10 dollar bar bets sometimes less! At least where I come from!
Hell! a month ago I witnessed two friends! get into it because one was talking to the other during a game and the player got sneaked with a beer bottle upside his head when he complained!!! This is why I play in tounaments and leave the bar betting alone ! I am too old to be going to jail over BS!
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fighting because of gambling
Once I was playing some doubles 9-ball with an acquaintance against 2 brothers...it started out friendly, for $5 a man per game...soon after a couple of games, my partner and one of the brothers started jacking it up to where it became $50 apiece for them...not me, I continued to play for 5 bucks....of course whenever I would make the 9-ball to win a game, the brother who was playing for 50 would be hassling me about it, since we were supposed to be "friends"....well, he ended up owing my playing partner over 200 bucks, and he said he'd pay the guy later...So because my partner had seen him earlier with money in his pocket, he wouldn't go for it...so he started threatening him...the loser charged at him, and my playing partner broke his cue stick over the guy's head...so here's this guy's head bleeding like crazy but he's got the guy on the floor choking him, and I finally had to get involved and pulled the guy off...after that we never gambled together again.... I've seen some really nasty things happen in a pool hall which involved violence....AceHigh said:
OldHasBeen
Tom Ferry
I agree, but.........
I agree - But In my (over 40) years of playing pool, I have seen most of the fights start over "Beers & Bucks" & VERY few (if any) between serious players.
But I also will never forget St. Louie, Louie chasing Bernie Schwartz all over Freddie's Chicago poolroom with a butcher knife. He had won a large set and the person with Bernie (holding the up money) THREW IT ALL AT LOUIE. Louie insisted this person pick it up and hand it to him. When she refused, Louie went behind the counter and got the knife. Nothing really happened, but it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a poolroom.
TY & GL
MrLucky said:No longer believe any fight is fair so they would rather shoot you and be done with it ! Even sadly over $5-10 dollar bar bets sometimes less! At least where I come from!
I agree - But In my (over 40) years of playing pool, I have seen most of the fights start over "Beers & Bucks" & VERY few (if any) between serious players.
But I also will never forget St. Louie, Louie chasing Bernie Schwartz all over Freddie's Chicago poolroom with a butcher knife. He had won a large set and the person with Bernie (holding the up money) THREW IT ALL AT LOUIE. Louie insisted this person pick it up and hand it to him. When she refused, Louie went behind the counter and got the knife. Nothing really happened, but it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in a poolroom.
TY & GL
OldHasBeen said:
One of the funniest things that I have seen in a pool room was at Greenway Biliards back in '77. Two guys had been playing some 9-ball on got into an arguement. They decided to settle it outside. Being that one of the combatants was much larger than the other, the smaller guy demanded a spot, starting out, IIRC, a pool cue butt. They agreed on 5 hundred to the winner. They kept going back and forth arguing about the spot and the whole room was in stitches, it was hysterical. They never did agree to a spot and finally settled things on the pool table.
Lunchmoney
Not entirely sure if this is true or not, and I'm not even sure if I should post it or not. So hopefully I won't get in trouble for this.
I heard that one night, Luis Viera beat some guy out of 10,000. As he was walking to his car, Luis was jumped and everything was stolen, even his clothes. He went back into the pool hall stark naked, and said, "If I find out who called the guy who jumped me outside. This is what'll happen to you." He then proceeded to beat the crap out of the guy that he won the money from.
Now I know this seems really crazy, but does anyone know if it's true or not?
I heard that one night, Luis Viera beat some guy out of 10,000. As he was walking to his car, Luis was jumped and everything was stolen, even his clothes. He went back into the pool hall stark naked, and said, "If I find out who called the guy who jumped me outside. This is what'll happen to you." He then proceeded to beat the crap out of the guy that he won the money from.
Now I know this seems really crazy, but does anyone know if it's true or not?
While in Sydney I signed for a pool team and one of our players ended up killing another local player a few years after I first met him. They where both good players and friends but got into a drunken fight one night over a girlfriend I think not pool. He actually tried to rip the eye out of the other guy and it was supposed to be hanging out (some reports said he threw it across the street!)
The fight was stopped but the other guy died later in hospital. Very sad story as many pool players knew both of them
Here is a link to a news article about it...
News Article
I got hit in the nose with a pool cue when I was about 16 by a local nutter after I had beaten him for a pound! He was getting really pissed off and I said something like "if you need it that badly keep your fucking pound"! He turned his cue around and smashed it into my nose - nice guy!
The fight was stopped but the other guy died later in hospital. Very sad story as many pool players knew both of them
Here is a link to a news article about it...
News Article
I got hit in the nose with a pool cue when I was about 16 by a local nutter after I had beaten him for a pound! He was getting really pissed off and I said something like "if you need it that badly keep your fucking pound"! He turned his cue around and smashed it into my nose - nice guy!