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normlook

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I have just read the entire thread regarding the gambling debt of R. Wiseman. I can understand the frustration felt by the originator and sympathize with him. What I cant condone is telling the whole world and yet again giving the game that I love another black eye. Don't you people understand that posting threads like this do nothing to help the sport you say you love. You are cutting your own throats and the sport that I love by doing so. Please, if you have any love for the game show it and post accordingly. It is the only way that our sport will be viewed in a positive light.
 
normlook said:
I have just read the entire thread regarding the gambling debt of R. Wiseman. I can understand the frustration felt by the originator and sympathize with him. What I cant condone is telling the whole world and yet again giving the game that I love another black eye. Don't you people understand that posting threads like this do nothing to help the sport you say you love. You are cutting your own throats and the sport that I love by doing so. Please, if you have any love for the game show it and post accordingly. It is the only way that our sport will be viewed in a positive light.

So you would rather him keep it quiet and let other people get stiffed by Ronnie? lmao.
 
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No, I dont think anyone should get stiffed,but I believe that there other ways to get the word out that will not hurt the sport.
 
um, i have to challenge.

If the poolplayers didn't stiff others or find various way to shaft other people in the pool industry, the threads you speak of wouldn't be needed.

In the R. W. thread specifically...

If the people doing the gambling took the necessary precautions to prevent themselves from getting bent over and taking it up the a.ss, the whole discussion would be moot, and if some poolplayers didn't have a tendency to do some shady business, it would also be moot.

It's partially due to the scumbag nature of some poolplayers, and also partially due to the naivety of some when it comes to gambling.

The sport will never be viewed in a positive light. There are just too many pieces of S. that inhabit the pool community.
 
normlook said:
No, I dont think anyone should get stiffed,but I believe that there other ways to get the word out that will not hurt the sport.
How can you get that kind of word out without making the sport look bad?
 
normlook said:
I have just read the entire thread regarding the gambling debt of R. Wiseman. I can understand the frustration felt by the originator and sympathize with him. What I cant condone is telling the whole world and yet again giving the game that I love another black eye. Don't you people understand that posting threads like this do nothing to help the sport you say you love. You are cutting your own throats and the sport that I love by doing so. Please, if you have any love for the game show it and post accordingly. It is the only way that our sport will be viewed in a positive light.

While your desire to protect the reputation of pro players is admirable, the fact is that, assuming the facts as presented are accurate, it is Wiseman that has disgraced his sport, not the guy reporting his deplorable conduct.

For years, I have posted that male pro players must, collectively, manage their own images by policing themselves, but the problem is that they choose not to. In other sports, not only are pros regularly fined and disciplined, but pros often call each other out publicly for their misconduct when it refelcts poorly on their sport.

In men's pool, however, Earl Strickland can verbally abuse a fan at the Mosconi Cup without being disciplined and without even one of his fellow pros publicly proclaiming their disapproval.

In men's pro pool, players that habitually fail to show up for tournament matches are never disciplined, nor do they ever seem to arouse the wrath of their fellow professionals.

In men's pro pool, Corey Deuel can hit a tournament director and get away with it.

By neither policing themselves nor holding each other to high standards, the men continue to ensure the continuation of conduct detrimental to the image of the game. Don't blame the general public for noticing such conduct.

The poster in the Wiseman thread has surely hurt Wiseman's action and has made it less likely that Ronnie will be able to pull another stunt like this, and that's good for the game, it's reputation, and for the posters on AZB that gamble.
 
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sjm said:
In men's pro pool, Corey Deuel can hit a tournament director and get away with it.

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Very well put statement. But the only thing your forgetting is that along with the players, you have tournament promoters who are ALSO scumbags wanting to do nothing more then line their own pockets at the players expense.

Just look at the history of mens pool.
 
SUPERSTAR said:
sjm said:
In men's pro pool, Corey Deuel can hit a tournament director and get away with it.

QUOTE]

Very well put statement. But the only thing your forgetting is that along with the players, you have tournament promoters who are ALSO scumbags wanting to do nothing more then line their own pockets at the players expense.

Just look at the history of mens pool.

Problem is promoters have to make money too or there is no tournament. Ask Jay about the massive headaches that come with promoting/running tournaments. And yes some are scumbags.
 
"Pool is stupid! Pool players are jerks!"

There, I just gave the sport the final death blow. No need to worry anymore.
 
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