Gareth Potts vs SVB.. who wins?
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Man, is your boy Van Boening DUE!
lol, "you're a bloody moron"
he wins pretty much everything he enters. The fact that you still don't understand tourney variance and that he's only played a handful of events outside of the US just furthers the above quotation.
In which other disciplines is he a champion?
Reigning?
Reigning Professional Blackball World Champion
Reigning Chinese 8 Ball Masters Champion
Two different sets of equipment that..
Are those really different disciplines, though?
Seems like just variations of the same game (8 ball). I mean, I wouldn't say a person who won a 9 ball and a 10 ball tournament a champion in multiple disciplines.
We are not simply adding another ball to the rack
Are you saying that E8B, C8B and A8B are all similar then?
Your honour he is trying to lead the witness
If the general rules are to pocket 7 balls and then a black ball, then yes.
Changing the equipment does not make it a different game.
I guess that make GP favourite for American 8B.
Excellent. In that case, can you get the USA's absolute best A8B over for some money matches please?
Pott's doesn't mind playing them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9sPDU--w5Q
And if he won't I'll play your top cookie myself...
But of course, that is not the position of some of your compatriots who claim that, despite the fact the balls are the same, the table size is the same, the cues are the same the cut of the pockets make it oh so massively different - A8B to C8B..
I think it would be interesting to see Potts and SVB play 10 ball on a 9 footer used for C8B.
It would be interesting to see them play anything on any table..
As someone who has played a lot on both cuts of pocket I would say they ARE very different.
But your point can be turned around as well. If the games are NOT "oh, so massively different", then you must figure Potts to be a massive favorite over SVB at A8B. He could triple his yearly tournament winnings in a single day in the USA if he could prove that true.
You can't take someone elses point, that I don't agree with, and then twist it on me..lol
I am one who would argue that there is a real difference between A8B and C8B, and clearly between C8B, A8B and E8B. GP's championships in E8B and C8B are indeed distinct and equally impressive championships. However, I don't think they are any more impressive than SVB's mutliple championships on Barbox 8ball, 8ball, 9ball, 10ball, and perhaps most impressive the accustats 1P invitational!
And while SVB's mechanics may not be as fundamentally sound as his European counterparts, to say his game is entirely based upon his break is grossly unfair and totally inaccurate.
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I take it back, if you contend you were not insinuating something with the "oh, so massively different" comment. It clearly sounded like you were mocking that point of view.
I have never played on a C8B table. Ever.
I have played on an American table, a snooker table and an E8B table. All three are cut differently. If you were to play any game at all, any game, on all three tables - they would be different.
Balls, cut, cues, cloth - all completely different.
So I cannot agree with the point that E8B and C8B are similar and I also contest that winning two major titles in the those two different disciplines with a matter of weeks of each other is some achievement.
To argue otherwise is troll posting frankly.
I agree. Excellent.
However, you have to agree that, at the least, the cut, the balls, the cloth and the cues are the same for all American games. All that changes is the size of the tables and, sometimes, the size of the pockets.
As a side issue, how does SVB do on the tighter tables?
But, coming right back to the OP, to look for a four discipline match up, putting three of them on american equipment, is simply not fair.
And C8B is not even Pott's first discipline - leastways, not until this year..