CB hits OB into a second OB which is frozen to a rail. No other contact is made.
Seems to me like the ruling could go either way.
Seems to me like the ruling could go either way.
General rules question
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Foul. No 'either way'.
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It's important to call that 2nd OB frozen before the shot is taken.
Jeff Livingston
Rules are made to eliminate 'could go either way'.
So if the second ball is not declared frozen, is it still a foul?
No. The non-shooter has to say it is on the rail before the shot or else it is assumed to not be.
Unless the rules have changed.
Jeff Livingston
That’s how we play one pocket. Not sure if it’s the same rules for other games. But if the non shooter doesn’t call the ball frozen it’s a good hit down here in Clearwater.
Second ball is irrelevant. Any ball not declared frozen is...not frozen, right?
But does it have to be called frozen every time after the first?
(That is where this conversation eventually went the last 1865x it was had.)
I'm confused how this is a foul?
My assumption was, when a ball is frozen to rail it is considered part of the rail? Meaning when the original object ball hits the 2nd object ball, is the 2nd object ball not considered part of the rail?
This is the first rule question I'm truly puzzled by.
My assumption was, when a ball is frozen to rail it is considered part of the rail? Meaning when the original object ball hits the 2nd object ball, is the 2nd object ball not considered part of the rail?
This is the first rule question I'm truly puzzled by.
Can you link the rule?
I don't have a rule about it. I assumed that a frozen ball was considered part of the rail, but I'm reading perhaps that the rail is considered as 'dead'. I'm not sure this means the rail is out of play?
No. A ball frozen to cushion has to contact another rail after contact or the cb must hit a rail to be legal.
Yes.
I found it.
www.billiards.com
#37 on here explains it.
Official BCA General Rules of Pocket Billiards
These general rules apply to all pocket billiard games, unless specifically noted to the contrary in the individual game rules. 1. TABLES, BALLS, EQUIPMENT. All games described in these rules are designed for tables, balls and equipment meeting the standards prescribed in the BCA Equipment...
Thank you, I was confused.
Yup. Down here it does. Otherwise the shooter wasn’t notified before he shot.
Now if two like minded people like you and I were playing some cheap one pocket I’m fairly certain we would only have to call it frozen once until balls in that area get moved around. And that’s how most play it.