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a few months ago, i asked if people would be interested in a video where an amatuer player was the feature person in it. and the amatuer would take rack layouts that a pro player ran out, and attempt to run the rack out exactly like the pro player. even if some shots took 2 tries. this would be a great practice routine to become familar with pro level shots and position.

well people said they would be interested. although i haven't had time to make a video like this, i think it would be interesting to post a couple practice outs each week on here.

during my practice, if i see a table layout that looks like a good practice out, i'll make a not of it, and post it. it would be nice if other people did this as well. but if not, i'll be more than happy to do this.

please make sure that the rack is runable, or presents a good opportunity for a good safe.

this is a rack that came up a few weeks ago. its not really all that hard a rack to get out of. the one ball to the two ball has to be perfect.

anyway please post how you would play this rack. and i'll post how i got out in a day or so.

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thanks

VAP
 
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I'll give it a shot because I enjoy these. Here goes:

1 Ball with top and come two rails between the 9 and 6.

2 Ball in the corner with low left to come back out for the 3.

3 Ball same corner with high left to come back out for the 5.

5 Ball same corner with draw to get on the 6 as close to straight as possible in the side.

6 in side with stop.

7 in lower left corner leaving cue ball just off the back rail.

8 in top left corner, middle cue ball to bring cue to center of table for 9 in the side.

Hopefully I'm not the only who sees it this way but if so, at least I will learn something. Thanks for the post VAP.

Dave
 
1) 1 in the corner with kill stroke...sliding down a bit
for the 2
2) 2 in the corner with draw (maybe some outside) to get
on the top side of the 3
3) cut the 3 in with middle/follow so you have an outside-in
cut on the 5
4) stun on the 5 so you get a little to the right of the 6
5) stun on the 6 to get straight in on the 7
6) stop on the 7
7) cut the 8 in for the 9 in the side
let's see how everyone else does it. I'm just learning
peace
egg
 
Koop,

I see pretty much the same thing except for:
Kill the cueball on the one to get pretty much the same position/angle on the two as two rail follow.
Leave the CB about 6-8" off of the back rail for just a little draw on the 8 for shape for the 9 in the side.
It appears to be a pretty simple out from this chair :p
 
BiG_JoN said:
Koop,

I see pretty much the same thing except for:
Kill the cueball on the one to get pretty much the same position/angle on the two as two rail follow.
Leave the CB about 6-8" off of the back rail for just a little draw on the 8 for shape for the 9 in the side.
It appears to be a pretty simple out from this chair :p
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Hey... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that way my 1,000 post!!!
Yippee!!!

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damn......i must have played an ass backwards pattern......LOL

i saw it an entirely different way........but i play alot of straight pool, and i don't like using english if i don't have to......in fact, i don't think i even spun the ball any on this out.

good ideas on the outs though.

VAP
 
DDKoop said:
I'll give it a shot because I enjoy these. Here goes:

1 Ball with top and come two rails between the 9 and 6.

[etc.]
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This is GREAT!

This format is just what I need!

It is very good to post the picture of the wei table in the post, then below it to describe each shot just as you have done including english/follow/draw for each shot as you have done.

Then I can first look at the layout and see how I would run it and also see where I would get into trouble. Then see the better way to run it provided below and learn where my error was.

So what I was doing was looking at each shot in the text description, then scrolling back up and looking at the picture. So back and forth from the text description to the picture.

This type of thing in this format is *very* helpful to me. Thank you! What I am doing is not making the right decisions on where to leave the cue ball and which pocket to shoot in which ball. (I would have left myself so that I would have shot the 3 into the opposite corner, then got into trouble trying to leave myself for the shot after that.)
 
DDKoop said:
I'll give it a shot because I enjoy these. Here goes:

1 Ball with top and come two rails between the 9 and 6.

2 Ball in the corner with low left to come back out for the 3.

3 Ball same corner with high left to come back out for the 5.

5 Ball same corner with draw to get on the 6 as close to straight as possible in the side.

6 in side with stop.

7 in lower left corner leaving cue ball just off the back rail.

8 in top left corner, middle cue ball to bring cue to center of table for 9 in the side.

Hopefully I'm not the only who sees it this way but if so, at least I will learn something. Thanks for the post VAP.

Dave
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The key to DDKoop's approach is his shot on the 1. I agree completely with the decision to follow here simply because you'd have to get one of the worst rolls in the century to get hooked. Any other way and you're asking for trouble. Once you get to the 3 on this table, all looks fairly routine. I wouldn't go so far as to say this is an easy out since the first couple of shots are rather demanding but this is a table a good player should expect to run out or lose if he doesn't.
 
OK, I'll show my ignorance. When I first looked at the table, I thought of using draw on the one and coming off one rail (the short rail by the nine) and back out for position on the two.
 
DDKoop said:
I'll give it a shot because I enjoy these. Here goes:

1 Ball with top and come two rails between the 9 and 6.

2 Ball in the corner with low left to come back out for the 3.

3 Ball same corner with high left to come back out for the 5.

5 Ball same corner with draw to get on the 6 as close to straight as possible in the side.

6 in side with stop.

7 in lower left corner leaving cue ball just off the back rail.

8 in top left corner, middle cue ball to bring cue to center of table for 9 in the side.

Hopefully I'm not the only who sees it this way but if so, at least I will learn something. Thanks for the post VAP.

Dave
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Mostly, I agree with you Dave. Play the one with top and go two rails, especially if this is a tight table, less of a chance to rattle out. I do believe it’s the most important shot of the rack to play smart on. Moving from the seven to the eight, I would leave more angle than just off the rail. It’s much easier to make the nine from up table than to risk being too straight in on the eight. Good post VAP.

Rick
 
id play the 1 with a little draw.....come over past the middle of the table below the 9, then play the 2 soft, roll up for the 3, draw back a little for the 4 in the same pocket, then centerball to get shapes for the 5, 1 rail off to play the 6 in the side, back down for the 7 and 1 rail back to the 9 in the corner.

I dont like going with follow on the 1, long follow shots just never seem to work out for me, plus id be scared of hooking myself with the 9.
 
From my perspective...

First off, I can't draw from the 2 to the 3, I have no draw stroke...bare with me...so I shoot the 1 into the corner, play the cue two rails to get between the 6 and 9, center table basically. I think act like I am cutting at the 2, but hit it almost dead on, banking it two rails and sticking the cue behind the balls and getting the 2 to go between the 3 and 8. When you suck as bad as me, you have to think leave.

*shrug*

Shorty
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
The key to DDKoop's approach is his shot on the 1. I agree completely with the decision to follow here simply because you'd have to get one of the worst rolls in the century to get hooked. Any other way and you're asking for trouble. Once you get to the 3 on this table, all looks fairly routine. I wouldn't go so far as to say this is an easy out since the first couple of shots are rather demanding but this is a table a good player should expect to run out or lose if he doesn't.
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I like Koop's approach too but I don't think going from the 1 to the 2 should be taken lightly. True, it's not hard to get on the 2, but the key to this rack is how well you get on the 2. If you roll too far and have a sharp cut angle, you're gonna havea hard time avoiding the 5 ball. If you carom into the 5 too full, you could create all kinds of havoc. Also, if you have too much angle on the 2, playing the CB with follow to get on the 3 might not be an option anymore. How well you get on the 2 is the key shot. After that, it's fairly routine.


Eric
 
StatMan said:
OK, I'll show my ignorance. When I first looked at the table, I thought of using draw on the one and coming off one rail (the short rail by the nine) and back out for position on the two.
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That's perfectly fine. It's strictly dealers choice. You shoot the shot you are comfortable with. The main thing is to stay in the center of the table for the first couple of shots. It's not a difficult table.

Chris
 
The first shot is the critical one. I would probably draw into the side rail (bottom of picture) to get back close to the 6 so that when shooting the 2 I could come out for the 3. The rest is straightforward. It all depends on the angle you have shooting the 1 ball. Top could take you to the middle diamond at the end rail and back to the side right behind that little 9 ball and then boy would you be pissed.

Would not want to be straight on the 2 which might happen with top.

Jake
 
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It would seem to me, even though the pocket closest to the 3 is the bottom corner. I'd play to roll past the two for shape to put the 3 in the side.
You follow the 3 and have great shape on the 5.
 
I agree with DDKoop's out as well (for the most part), although I'd have to be down over the 1 ball on an actual table to decide if I would follow 2 rails or draw across table and back out past the 9. The speed of the table and how tight the pockets are playing would factor in my decision on this shot. Either way, the plan would be to get approx center table on the 2.

The 1 with proper shape on the 2 is by far the toughest shot of the rack. If you get the right angle on the 2, position for the 3 is pretty simple, and from there it's a relatively easy out. Most of the rest of the shots leave quite a bit of room for error as far as position goes, with the ability to recover and still get out.

~Chris
 
scottycoyote said:
id play the 1 with a little draw.....come over past the middle of the table below the 9, then play the 2 soft, roll up for the 3, draw back a little for the 4 in the same pocket, then centerball to get shapes for the 5, 1 rail off to play the 6 in the side, back down for the 7 and 1 rail back to the 9 in the corner.

I dont like going with follow on the 1, long follow shots just never seem to work out for me, plus id be scared of hooking myself with the 9.
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Actually, that's an 8 ball, not the 4.

I think you might want to reconsider putting the CB near the 9 to shoot the 2. The problem with that is that you need perfect speed control to not hook yourself. I think it might make more sense to not bring the 9 ball into the shot, or at least minimize the chance of getting hooked by the 9.

JMO.


Eric
 
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