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ok, i said i'd post one or two of these a week.........but i've been slacking..........so here's another one.

my opponent broke and came up dry on the break..........but made the comment "i'll take that"...........after he left me snookered.


so.........what do you do from here? (see how many people are paying attention) as my opponent wasn't and wasn't happy about the outcome......LOL.

here's the link to the wei table http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html

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thanks

VAP
 
Did you bust out your jump stick and shoot the 1 into the back rail into the 4-9? hehe

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vapoolplayer said:
ok, i said i'd post one or two of these a week.........but i've been slacking..........so here's another one.

my opponent broke and came up dry on the break..........but made the comment "i'll take that"...........after he left me snookered.


so.........what do you do from here? (see how many people are paying attention) as my opponent wasn't and wasn't happy about the outcome......LOL.

here's the link to the wei table http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html

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thanks

VAP
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vapoolplayer said:
ok, i said i'd post one or two of these a week.........but i've been slacking..........so here's another one.

my opponent broke and came up dry on the break..........but made the comment "i'll take that"...........after he left me snookered.


so.........what do you do from here? (see how many people are paying attention) as my opponent wasn't and wasn't happy about the outcome......LOL.

here's the link to the wei table http://endeavor.med.nyu.edu/~wei/pool/pooltable2.html

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thanks

VAP
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Contrary to what everyone else said (because I didn't say it first), I would strike downward on the cue-ball, sending it into flight over all obstructions, having it sail down table to strike the 1-ball head-on, hopefully causing a collusion with the 4-ball since it appears that the nine-ball will inevitably follow a path directly toward the corner pocket. I would then slide my bead over and grab my break-cue.
 
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I think the kick, playing the dead 4-9 with the cue ball, is a pretty makeable shot. You're almost sure to at least hit the 4 if you hit the right side of the 1-ball. Not to mention, even if you do hit the wrong side of the 1-ball, you have a good chance of not selling out.
 
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well a jump shot may be easier, but my first thought was to kick the one ball and allow the cue ball to come off the one into the 4.

Now on further review, I'm jumpin
 
I feel the jump is kinda risky. Can you jump well? If you cant, then its probably a better idea to kick. Either kick from one of the 2 long rails, but what i would go for is to kick off the second diamond on the left short rail with left english to go for a carom of the 1-4-9. Either that or push out somewhere between the 3 and 4. That way, even if they pocket the 1, they have a sharp cut for the 2.
 
I would spend some time looking at the combinaton and make sure he saw me lining it up. Then I would push the cue ball towards the bottom rail and entice him to try the shot. It will also give you more jump room in case he decides to give the shot back to you.
 
well just to make it official.......i played the jump shot.

the guy was acting like an asshole the entire set, and him saying something like "i'll take that" just kinda pissed me off.

i was going back for my break cue before the cue ball was back on the table good........LOL

VAP
 
My opponent is a strong player: I would have taken the kick (definatly soft shot) because I know that I would be able to hit the far side of the one ball, the cue would carom into the 4. The 4 stays idle and if the 9 does not go in the cue ball might be behind the 4 or even the 9.

My opponent is a medium player: I would push by hitting the two ball into the 4 and keep the cue ball up table with a difficult shot on the one.

My opponent is a weaker player: I would push to the right rail to the point the one might be maid but player is not capable of making 9.


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If you are even reasonably good at jumping I think the kick shot would be a very bad choice. Even some kind of push would be better than the kick shot. This jump shot is pretty straight forward. The cue ball is close enough to the rail that you can put your self in the perfect position for the jump. You are going to hit the one ball. If you hit it and make contact with the 4, you win. If you miss a little to the left, the one comes off the rail and breaks up the dead combo. If you miss a little to the right, it can catch the 9 and break up the dead combo.

If you play the kick shot, to many things can go wrong. Let's say you do make a good hit on the one but your cue just misses the 4. Now your opponent has a bank into the dead combo. Nope, no kick shot coming from me on this table.

Good shot and good decision VAP.
 
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If you are even reasonably good at jumping I think the kick shot would be a very bad choice. Even some kind of push would be better than the kick shot. This jump shot is pretty straight forward. The cue ball is close enough to the rail that you can put your self in the perfect position for the jump. You are going to hit the one ball. If you hit it and make contact with the 4, you win. If you miss a little to the left, the one comes off the rail and breaks up the dead combo. If you miss a little to the right, it can catch the 9 and break up the dead combo.

If you play the kick shot, to many things can go wrong. Let's say you do make a good hit on the one but your cue just misses the 4. Now your opponent has a bank into the dead combo. Nope, no kick shot coming from me on this table.

Good shot and good decision VAP.
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i'm probably equally as good at kicking and jumping......but i just didn't feel comfortable with the kick. i was pretty sure that i'd make the jump, even if i didn't i was 100 percent sure i'd hit the one, and i'd really have to be unlucky to leave him an easy out.

VAP
 
I agree with you as I think most players jump fairly well. I would prefer the kick as I play 3 cushion billiards also and this would be a no brainer. If a players kicks are not strong enough to hit a specific area of the one ball, I am then 100% with you. I am less likely to control the cue ball if I jump, this is just me, possibly scratch. But given the layout, I would have a nice opportunity to play a safe after the shot if the 9 does not drop for some reason.
 
CaptainJR said:
If you play the kick shot, to many things can go wrong. Let's say you do make a good hit on the one but your cue just misses the 4. Now your opponent has a bank into the dead combo. Nope, no kick shot coming from me on this table.

Good shot and good decision VAP.
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I see what you are saying, which is why I stated a soft kick.
 
pete lafond said:
I agree with you as I think most players jump fairly well. I would prefer the kick as I play 3 cushion billiards also and this would be a no brainer. If a players kicks are not strong enough to hit a specific area of the one ball, I am then 100% with you. I am less likely to control the cue ball if I jump, this is just me, possibly scratch. But given the layout, I would have a nice opportunity to play a safe after the shot if the 9 does not drop for some reason.
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You and I just can't agree on this one I guess. Soft shot? You say "I would have a nice opportunity to play a safe after the shot if the 9 does not drop for some reason." Sorry, but it is not your turn if the 9 doesn't drop. Now you have ducked up the 9 for your opponent.
 
CaptainJR said:
You and I just can't agree on this one I guess. Soft shot? You say "I would have a nice opportunity to play a safe after the shot if the 9 does not drop for some reason." Sorry, but it is not your turn if the 9 doesn't drop. Now you have ducked up the 9 for your opponent.
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I think it is more of a feeling of what is more comfortable to me which maybe I should have answered differently. In 3 cushion I would play this shot on different occasions when a simple 3 railer is not possible. I do feel very comfortable with it though. For me, anyway, I would be less likely to miss whereas jumping my subconscious mind would tell me "watch out". If there were a ball in the way stopping an easy kick, I would then opt to push by kicking the two ball into the 4 and leave the cue ball up table for a difficult shot or a force kick. Your jump shot confidence is probably much better than mine and as it sounds you probably could execute the shot much better. Which is a very good thing for you. I cringe every time I need to jump because I do not do it enough that I have no idea of where the cue ball will end up, worst is ball in hand.
 
pete lafond said:
I think it is more of a feeling of what is more comfortable to me which maybe I should have answered differently. In 3 cushion I would play this shot on different occasions when a simple 3 railer is not possible. I do feel very comfortable with it though. For me, anyway, I would be less likely to miss whereas jumping my subconscious mind would tell me "watch out". If there were a ball in the way stopping an easy kick, I would then opt to push by kicking the two ball into the 4 and leave the cue ball up table for a difficult shot or a force kick. Your jump shot confidence is probably much better than mine and as it sounds you probably could execute the shot much better. Which is a very good thing for you. I cringe every time I need to jump because I do not do it enough that I have no idea of where the cue ball will end up, worst is ball in hand.
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I agree, our disagreement is probably based on your confidence with kick shots and my confidence with jump. Just different experience. I think I played a few games of 3 cushions long ago. A very difficult game. I would still have to say that the average 9 ball player that hasn't had the 3 cushion experience you have, should play anything other than the kick. For fear of leaving the dead combo sit there for the opponent. I personally would rather kick into the 4,9 giving ball in hand than try to glance off the one and maybe leave the combo there for the opponent.
 
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