Getting rid of 7ft tables

[StormHotRod300]

Would getting rid of 7ft table be a benefit towards pool?

I think it would, because it would make people realize thier true skill level, and then you wouldnt hafta worry about someone getting lucky on a 7ft table because of playing slop or banging balls around. Which i see happen very often. And then player X, goes around saying he beat the hell outa player Y, which in fact he just got lucky because he happend to slop the 9ball in or knocked a couple other balls in when he didnt have a open shot on the OB.

Now while this does happen when playing on a 9ft table, the occurance is alot less.

And to the people who would say, what should we play 8ball on or leagues on. Well play 8ball on a 8ft table, which is very ideal because of the size of the table. Not too much space like a 9ft, and not too cramped like a 7ft.

As for 9ball leagues, yes they should be played on a 9ft table.

Plus you wouldnt have people complaining about having to play a tournament on a big table. Which i have seen many of times, because the pool hall i frequent tries to get some of the tournaments played on 9ft tables, but you get half of the people *****ing n complaining. Or nobody shows up except for the people who either just dont care, or who already play on 9ft tables all the time.

Also another thing is you would be better able to figure out a persons skill level for handicap tournaments too.

But thats just my rant and 2cents, feel free to add your opinion on getting rid of 7ft tables.

dave

 

[jbell]

Storm im with you on bartable being to EASY you cna tell who is a player by the bigger tables , I mean even a 4x8 plays tough compared to a barbox.
And i think your players will like their tournys ALOT more on the bigger tables.

 

[StormHotRod300]

Jbell

I know what you mean by the 8ft tables. I have played on some where you seriously have to finesse the ball, cuz the pockets spit balls out worse that a 9ft table lol.

And as for the 9ft tables, the problem is seriously, that all the newbies and bangers wont play on a 9ft table, because they have no chance of winning.

And alot of the tournaments around here are handicap tournaments because there is such a vast range of skill level. So by playing on a 9ft table your giving the higher skilled player a major advantage.

But even in the other tournaments which is made up of basically everyone but A level players and up, 95% of them wont play on a 9ft. The B level players will because they have the advantage too.

I love playing on a 9ft table more than a 7ft, because i know how to play on a 9ft. I can seriously run a rack more often on a 9ft, than a 7ft table lol.

I have always wanted to run the tournaments at the pool hall i frequent and just suprise everyone by, making them play on the 9ft tables lol.

But seriously the only way you can get people to play on 9ft tables is to take away the 7ft tables. Limit thier options and they will be forced to deal with what you have.

dave

 

[catscradle]

I think it would hurt pool because it would kill the bar business, they haven't the room for a 9 footer and often not the room for an 8 footer. So what you say, real pool is played in pool rooms on 9 footers. True that, but how many people would have never played pool if they didn't get their start on unintimidating 7 footers in bars. As pool rooms die daily it just may be the barrooms that keep pool alive through these tough times. Don't underestimate the springboard that 7 footers are.

 

[Icon of Sin]

One bad thing I see in this scenario is some of the Bars are to small that host APA and other leagues. I know a few bars in my area like this that are already tight enough in their with a barbox. Putting an 8 ft would be out of the question. Not sure if any of you guys benn around East Baltimore (Highlandtown) but there are alot of row homes there and at the corner of most blocks there is a local tavern. Most of the places on that league are held in these row home corner taverns.

I know 2 bars already off the top of my head that I have to use a short cue in if the ball is up against the rail.

Also on leagues, the lower skills seem to outrank the higher skills. I think with the more lower skill players it is good to keep the barboxes around since it is easeir for them to sink balls. Making the league more fun for them and making them want to stick around. All this then leads to more popularity of the game we all love.

I like shooting on barbox, but 8fts are my favorite, that is what I have at home and like to practice on.

BTW. Im new here guys, but not new to pool, and this is my first post. Pleasure to meet you all.

 

[pete lafond]

I like the availability of 7' tables for the kids. It is a great table size for kids to learn pool. I see kids at restaurants that have these tables playing on them. Also good for billiard rooms to have these tables for kids.

 

[catscradle]

I like the availability of 7' tables for the kids. It is a great table size for kids to learn pool. I see kids at restaurants that have these tables playing on them. Also good for billiard rooms to have these tables for kids.

Hmmm Pete, judging from your avatar you've recently had an operation or two.

 

[pete lafond]

Hmmm Pete, judging from your avatar you've recently had an operation or two.

Yeah, the only problem now is that it's hard to get away from the mirror in the morning.

 

[randyg]

STORMHOTROD300:

That's quite a statement. Get rid of 7ft. tables. To improve pool no less.

("I love playing on a 9ft table more than a 7ft, because i know how to play on a 9ft. I can seriously run a rack more often on a 9ft, than a 7ft table lol." ) ..............Tells the whole story.

In this great counry over 85% of our league pool players play on a 7ft. table. I think CATSCRADDLE is right, that's a springboard to bigger things.

The three major National Tournaments for amatuers are all on 7ft. tables. No less than 25,000 entries per year.

Pool requires a good player to command three different skill levels. The size of the table and the actual game played, prioritizes those three skill levels into different rankings. In other words the 9-Ball game requires a different skill rank than an 8-Ball game of a 7ft. table. Most good players learn to use all three skills in order to compete on any size table in any game.

Thanks for listening....SPF-randyg

 

[hemicudas]

I think it would hurt pool because it would kill the bar business, they haven't the room for a 9 footer and often not the room for an 8 footer. So what you say, real pool is played in pool rooms on 9 footers. True that, but how many people would have never played pool if they didn't get their start on unintimidating 7 footers in bars. As pool rooms die daily it just may be the barrooms that keep pool alive through these tough times. Don't underestimate the springboard that 7 footers are.

Exactly, Cats. Moot point any way. Will never happen.

 

[JG-in-KY]

Lot of good points made on this issue. To me, its exciting to watch two bar table champions match up and see how many racks they will run against each other and who will wilt first! Don't think it doesn't take skill to play at this level. How many of you have seen big table champions dusted off by bar table legends because they didn't know how to manuver around the table. I love the bar tables - I love pool on any size table. I do think that the 7 footers have introduced many new players to the game and put tables in places that wouldn't have got them otherwise.

 

[Snapshot9]

I agree ..

I think it would hurt pool because it would kill the bar business, they haven't the room for a 9 footer and often not the room for an 8 footer. So what you say, real pool is played in pool rooms on 9 footers. True that, but how many people would have never played pool if they didn't get their start on unintimidating 7 footers in bars. As pool rooms die daily it just may be the barrooms that keep pool alive through these tough times. Don't underestimate the springboard that 7 footers are.

with cats. If people were forced to shoot on a 9 footer, most amateurs
would end up quitting rather than stick with it. Why you ask? Because on
a 7 footer, they learn faster how to make a shot, and can do it in a short
period of time, and getting shape comes into question. On a 9 footer, making
the shot is more difficult, slower progress, less fun, for the average shooter.
And when it becomes work, and not fun, many would just quit. 7 footers are
a springboard, and the serious players sooner or later get opened up to playing on a 9 footer. I can play on a 8 or 9 footer, it's what I grew up
with, but I do not care to that much, because I am shorter, and I do not
like using a crutch all the time because I can not reach the shot. For me,
it is kind of like the feel a car has for you, some cars just feel too big for my
size, and I feel much more comfortable in one that IS MY SIZE.

 

[TheBook]

Doesn't the table size relate to the game that is supposed to be played on them? EG 7 ball on a 7 ft table, 8 ball on a 8 ft table, 9 ball on a 9 ft table and 10 ball on a 10 ft table?

 

[Snapshot9]

And

Doesn't the table size relate to the game that is supposed to be played on them? EG 7 ball on a 7 ft table, 8 ball on a 8 ft table, 9 ball on a 9 ft table and 10 ball on a 10 ft table?

What is the flavor of the Ice Cream cone you're sitting on?

 

[Snapshot9]

Lmao ...

Yeah, the only problem now is that it's hard to get away from the mirror in the morning.

Pete ... You need to see the movie 'Switch' .... lol
It might help you assess your situation better ... ROFL

 

[2arm_bandit]

get rid of the bar box?
no
where i'm from some people play on the bar box, some people play on the 9foot. if your a player you know that each table is a totally different game and a totally different way of matching up. most of the time my action is on a 9foot table, just like the rest of you. but there have been times when i just couldnt get there on the big table. but for some reason i have always just played like burnin hell on a barbox. i can take someone who just beat me on the big table, put em on a barbox, jack the bet, and the rest is history. i dont complain if someone would prefer the barbox or they slop in shots cause when its my turn again i just take control of the table and refuse to give it back

 

[Cornerman]

Would getting rid of 7ft table be a benefit towards pool?

I've always said that the advent of the bar table has been both a blessing and a curse to American pool. It has gotten more people involved in pool, but the sloppiness of them don't allow the average Friday night banger to ever appreciate what good pool is all about.

That being said, I think bar tables are fine, if the conditions were somewhat similar to real tables. The Diamond 7' Smart Table is the step in the right direction.

All of that aside, one could also make a case to not to have easy commercial tables in existence. And we might as well throw out 8' tables.

Fred

 

[randyg]

Lot of good points made on this issue. To me, its exciting to watch two bar table champions match up and see how many racks they will run against each other and who will wilt first! Don't think it doesn't take skill to play at this level. How many of you have seen big table champions dusted off by bar table legends because they didn't know how to manuver around the table. I love the bar tables - I love pool on any size table. I do think that the 7 footers have introduced many new players to the game and put tables in places that wouldn't have got them otherwise.

I just found a new friend! This is what the pool world that I live in is like....SPF-randyg

 

[Cardinal2B]

size matters

I can imagine years ago a thread with players adamantly defending 10 x 5 tables against the incursion of smaller 9' tables, railing against the damage they do to the purity of the game, and how sloppy shots just multiply like rabbits...

 

[randyg]

I can imagine years ago a thread with players adamantly defending 10 x 5 tables against the incursion of smaller 9' tables, railing against the damage they do to the purity of the game, and how sloppy shots just multiply like rabbits...

So right you are!....randyg