Gina Cues

Since everyone has vented about Gina Cues I would like to share my Gina Story. I have been hooked on Pool / Cues since I was 11 years old and 49 years later the beat goes on. I first had the pleasure of meeting Ernie at the WPA tourament in Chicago in 1994, I filled out a customer information sheet and not long after I recieved a Grey envelope with a price list and glossy photos of his cues, the cues ranged from 1200.00 to 6000.00.

My first impression of Ernie was "Class", he worn a silver suit and a dark flashy tie to boot! I never did order a Gina cue, always wanted one but never pulled the trigger.

Years later and many cues later I found AZ, the Gina thing starts up again and I wanted one. Well along came Kevin and not too long after we struck up a frendship, talked about all kinds of cues, some I aquired form Kevin and the rest is history. Kevin did his magic, I contacted Ernie and would you believe he had me in his data base since 1994, talk about beinig orginazed!

Thanks to Kevin I have a very special Gina cue, I am not ready to let the cat out of the bag on this one but I will tell you this, it bridges the past, present and the future in cue making and the cue is P-E-R-F-E-C-T!

So there it, is my Gina stroy. Erine has been around since Rambow, Paradise, Balabushka and Spain, he made cues for the iHollywood in crowd, the Rat Pack, the Pro's, the every day pool player like you and me and is still making cues to perfection to this day!

Enjoy,

BBC

BBC

That so nice of you. I think we did some Palmers and at least one Spain before the Gina project. I'll never forget that Spain, the AZ thread (possibly before you were a member) where I announced the Spain auction turned out a lot like this one with guys posting in with what they new of Burton and his numbering system (the cue I sold was numbered and dated) and chock full of remembrances and information. Sometimes I think as collectors we get so involved in the item itself that we forget the history of the artisans and its fun to get back to that.

I'll call you sometime today.

Thanks

Kevin
 
OK, as long as we're all "sharing," previously on General Hospital:

I owned an eight-point Gina when I was a teenager, growing up in SF. ALL the top players on the West Coast, at that time, used a Gina -- a few, played with a TAD. I bought it off a fellow named Dennis, who, in a moment of temporary insanity, sold it to me -- with three shafts and a black alligator Gina case -- for $150. Several years later, I sold it back to him for $250. Ah, youth.

Flash forward 25 years or so and for our tenth anniversary, my wife asked me what I would like for the event (keep in mind that I had a custom made,1 carat emerald cut diamond, with baguettes, in the works for her). I blurted out that I always regretted selling that Gina, so many years ago. She said, "If he's still around making cues, get on the phone and get what you want."

I called Ernie and told him the story and described the cue I had previously owned. He said, yes, he remembered the cue, but didn't make them quite that way any more, and if I wanted one, he'd have to pull out the drawings, spend some time on the computer, and reload the specs. I said great, but with some small changes: I wanted the joint, the inlays, and butt plate in ivory, and a leather wrap. He said no problem and that he would be happy to charge me appropriately. He said eight months.

Six months later he called and said he was sending leather samples for the wrap. He also said that when he looked at the drawings, he saw that he use to make this particular cue with an additional ring below that wrap that I had forgotten to mention. He said he took the liberty of adding it, in ivory, at no additional charge, so that it would look just like the cue I had previously owned.

A week later it was in my hands. It was absolutely flawless -- exactly as I remembered it, but better.

As to it's playing characteristics, I will tell you the following in complete honesty: when I first got it, I wasn't sure I liked the way it hit. It's a firm solid hit, that somehow, sounds soft. Sorry, I can't describe it any other way. In fact, it was only after three or four other players asked to take a few shots with the cue, that I could hear how soft a hit it had (with hard Mooris).

But nonetheless, despite my minor misgivings, I seemed to make a lot of balls with the cue. After just two days, I felt like I was playing a couple of balls better with this cue than I had with any other. I dismissed it as just being "new cue syndrome."

But then, people started telling me (mostly opponents I was relieving of cash) that I had suddenly improved two balls. My practice runs jumped way up. My confidence went way up. After a couple of months I called Ernie and told him how much I loved the cue.

And then I asked, "You know, everyone tells me I'm playing two balls better than before with your cue."

And he said, "I've built special test equipment and my cues are 97% accurate. The cue alone is worth a ball and a half."

Now, you can take that as "a sales story," or hype, or PR or whatever you want. But for my money, you couldn't pull this cue out of my hands with a Mac diesel.

IMO, Ernie is THE greatest living cuemaker. And, IMO, you should get one while you can. It will cost you. But it will be worth every single last penny.

Lou Figueroa

OK... after posting a story like that, it is REQUIRED that you post a picture of the cue... :grin:
 
OK... after posting a story like that, it is REQUIRED that you post a picture of the cue... :grin:


Well, of course you're right. I just had it refinished and re-wrapped (with elephant ear) a couple of months ago. Also, they're not in the photo, but he also made two new extra shafts for me :-)

Lou Figueroa
 

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Sometimes I read stuff and get the wrong impression. Does Ernie use a CNC machine for his inlays and points? I thought fullsplicing was harder. I thought fullsplicing made the cue worth more because it took longer. So Ernie makes his cues how? Are the points sharp? I always assumed he made cues like Bushka and Szamboti. Or they made their cues how he does. There points are sharp. Hearing some of these things I may sell a couple of my cues and buy a Gina.
 
Sometimes I read stuff and get the wrong impression. Does Ernie use a CNC machine for his inlays and points? I thought fullsplicing was harder. I thought fullsplicing made the cue worth more because it took longer. So Ernie makes his cues how? Are the points sharp? I always assumed he made cues like Bushka and Szamboti. Or they made their cues how he does. There points are sharp. Hearing some of these things I may sell a couple of my cues and buy a Gina.

Ernie does not splice cues. His points are inlaid. Splicing a cue might be harder but you would have a very hard time convincing Ernie Gutierrez in what way splicing makes a cue better. I think Ernie has always sought to make his cues better, hit better, last longer. I don't think he was ever particularly motivated to do things a way because it is harder.

George also didn't splice cues although the cues he made were spliced.

Thanks

Kevin
 
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