THESE WERE MADE FOR A HOPPE TITLIST CONVERSION, THREAD - 5/16 X 18, FEW YEARS OLD, NEVER USED.
THE BLUE CHALK FADE ON ONE OF THE TIPS IS FROM AN OLD FLOWERS CASE WHICH HAD SOME CHALK POWDER IN IT.
BOTH ARE FOR SALE - jasxe@aol.com , I'M UNSURE OF THE PRICE, PLEASE MAKE OFFER, PAYPAL ONLY. ( eBay in a day or two )
Of his current catalog, here are his lower priced cues, the 17a and 17c are his least expensive @ $1,700 & $2,100 respectively. 14b and 18a also start under 3k. Not bad for a cue that will, in my opinion, always be worth at least what you paid, something that can't be said of too many cues. All his cues include 2 shafts and a Whitten 1x2 Ginacue case...hope this helps
17b was 3600 a few years ago, that's the base model with the basic rings, steel joint, synthetic butt cap, and linen wrap. on that model you have to pay for all the upgraded options. some of his fancier models come priced with the bigger options like ivory jt, butt cap, etc.