Glue For Leather

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

I recently put on my 1st leather wrap. I used contact cement & it turned out perfect. Beginners luck I assume. Anyhow, I was wondering which glue you use & why. THANKS GUYS...JER

 

[Cue Crazy]

Jer,

I am about to do My first soon also, and Contact cement is the way It was told to Me, but titebond on the seam for more holding power. also guessing the amount of stretch before cutting, as materials stretch different amounts. Do you have any tips on cutting the wrap or clamping? Not using one of those Jigs are you? Greg

 

[hadjcues]

Jer,

I am about to do My first soon also, and Contact cement is the way It was told to Me, but titebond on the seam for more holding power. also guessing the amount of stretch before cutting, as materials stretch different amounts. Do you have any tips on cutting the wrap or clamping? Not using one of those Jigs are you? Greg

Greg,

I hope you don't mind me cutting in...
I don't have the jig that most use. I clamp the handle area in a vise with a straight edge long enough to cover both ends. Making sure the overlap is tight and bonds well. Cutting it, I have the cue between centers on the lathe. I clamp a surgical knife on the toolpost which cuts at a slight angle (as opposed to perpendicular to the cue) and this gives me a very minimal seam for textured leather (for smooth leather it's easier to hide). This procedure IMO assures the overlap to be as close as possible.

I use white glue, works fine.

Hadj

 

[Cue Crazy]

Greg,

I hope you don't mind me cutting in...
I don't have the jig that most use. I clamp the handle area in a vise with a straight edge long enough to cover both ends. Making sure the overlap is tight and bonds well. Cutting it, I have the cue between centers on the lathe. I clamp a surgical knife on the toolpost which cuts at a slight angle (as opposed to perpendicular to the cue) and this gives me a very minimal seam for textured leather (for smooth leather it's easier to hide). This procedure IMO assures the overlap to be as close as possible.

I use white glue, works fine.

Hadj

No don't mind at all Hadj, infact prefer it,

The overlap technic I have used in wallpaper, so was going to do that using a straight edge to cut, but I like the tool post idea, can't believe that easy one slipped me by. some use shoe polish also to blend. I was going to make alittle roller with a metal drum also, but some use a wallpaper roller. Greg

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

Jer,

I am about to do My first soon also, and Contact cement is the way It was told to Me, but titebond on the seam for more holding power. also guessing the amount of stretch before cutting, as materials stretch different amounts. Do you have any tips on cutting the wrap or clamping? Not using one of those Jigs are you? Greg

I cut the length about 1/16" short,then sanded the back of the leather at the 2 edges, til it was flush with my .020 wrap groove. Then I put a piece of 1/2" masking tape the lenght of the wrap groove ,on the wood, where I wanted the seam. Then I smeared the contact cement on the back of the leather & the wrap area(I masked off the Q above & below the wrap). after it dried ,I smoothed out the leather with a wallpaper roller. Over lapped the 2 ends & wraped the whole area with stretchy plastic tape. I waited about a 1/2 hour & taped a straight edge to the Q & cut the seam through the overlapped area(like they do wallpaper). I spread the 2 edges, picked out the excess, smeared more contact cement on both surfaces & let dry. I carfully put one side down, then the other, squeezed them thgether at the seam & rolled it. I ran a black marker down the seam & sealed it with clear shoe polish. Like I said I was just lucky. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS DO?...JER

 

[Cue Crazy]

I cut the length about 1/16" short,then sanded the back of the leather at the 2 edges, til it was flush with my .020 wrap groove. Then I put a piece of 1/2" masking tape the lenght of the wrap groove ,on the wood, where I wanted the seam. Then I smeared the contact cement on the back of the leather & the wrap area(I masked off the Q above & below the wrap). after it dried ,I smoothed out the leather with a wallpaper roller. Over lapped the 2 ends & wraped the whole area with stretchy plastic tape. I waited about a 1/2 hour & taped a straight edge to the Q & cut the seam through the overlapped area(like they do wallpaper). I spread the 2 edges, picked out the excess, smeared more contact cement on both surfaces & let dry. I carfully put one side down, then the other, squeezed them thgether at the seam & rolled it. I ran a black marker down the seam & sealed it with clear shoe polish. Like I said I was just lucky. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS DO?...JER

Sounds like You got your info from the same guy as me, If it was, he does good work, and not suprised at all that It worked that well for you. Glad to hear it, cause It makes me want to jump on those leathers I have been putting off. And I'm with you on the others, where's all the action, all read and no post LOL. as long as you got it down, that's all that matters, from what i've heard you already make a good cue, so just keep on doing what Your doing. Greg

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

Glue for leather

Sounds like You got your info from the same guy as me, If it was, he does good work, and not suprised at all that It worked that well for you. Glad to hear it, cause It makes me want to jump on those leathers I have been putting off. And I'm with you on the others, where's all the action, all read and no post LOL. as long as you got it down, that's all that matters, from what i've heard you already make a good cue, so just keep on doing what Your doing. Greg

I didn't get any info from anyone, I just guessed, with a little common sense from my wife...JER

 

[Cue Crazy]

I didn't get any info from anyone, I just guessed, with a little common sense from my wife...JER

better keep that one around, if she's given you advice like that, i got just about the same advice from a very good cuemaker that was very experienced with wraps. sounds like a smart woman to me. I would'nt do it, but Where could I trade Mine in for one of her LOL. mine is smart also, but has'nt been much help to me on the cuebuilding part yet. Hold on to that one JER

 

[BLACKHEARTCUES]

Glue for leather

better keep that one around, if she's given you advice like that, i got just about the same advice from a very good cuemaker that was very experienced with wraps. sounds like a smart woman to me. I would'nt do it, but Where could I trade Mine in for one of her LOL. mine is smart also, but has'nt been much help to me on the cuebuilding part yet. Hold on to that one JER

My wife has probably put on more tips than most Qmakers. She is my right hand. She has her own Porper, where she turns the squares to rounds & then tapers them. She also cuts the butt caps & ferrules to length. We just celabrated our 44th wedding anniversary. The secret to our marrage is that we were married when we were kids & ONE of us grew up. Oh that's right, the other thing is that about 20 years ago, she had a HUMOR TRANPLANT. Before, every thing I said was dumb or stupid. Now she thinks I'm funny & once in a while CLEVER. HA HA HA ...JER

 

[Murray Tucker]

My wife has probably put on more tips than most Qmakers. She is my right hand. She has her own Porper, where she turns the squares to rounds & then tapers them. She also cuts the butt caps & ferrules to length. We just celabrated our 44th wedding anniversary. The secret to our marrage is that we were married when we were kids & ONE of us grew up. Oh that's right, the other thing is that about 20 years ago, she had a HUMOR TRANPLANT. Before, every thing I said was dumb or stupid. Now she thinks I'm funny & once in a while CLEVER. HA HA HA ...JER

My wife wandered into the shop this weekend to see what I was doing. I was working on cutting shafts and was griping about how boring it was. She actually wanted me to show her how to run the shaft machine so that I could go watch the NASCAR race!!!. What a gal.

 

[Cue Crazy]

My wife has probably put on more tips than most Qmakers. She is my right hand. She has her own Porper, where she turns the squares to rounds & then tapers them. She also cuts the butt caps & ferrules to length. We just celabrated our 44th wedding anniversary. The secret to our marrage is that we were married when we were kids & ONE of us grew up. Oh that's right, the other thing is that about 20 years ago, she had a HUMOR TRANPLANT. Before, every thing I said was dumb or stupid. Now she thinks I'm funny & once in a while CLEVER. HA HA HA ...JER

She sure sounds like a good one, and you are a lucky guy to be blessed with such. They say you only meet one like that in your lifetime, and I am lucky enough that I believe I found mine also. That's why I could never trade her in. We've only been together for around 15 years,and met at a young age, but hope to be as happy when we get to our 44th, wishfull thinking I guess, but maybe By then I will have her working side by side with me. she's just starting to think I'm clever and funny at times, but not as much as i would like LOL. But must admitt I am bad about pulling the wool over her eyes for a reaction to humor myself, and she does not like to be the butt of It, so does not always think I am that funny, but that makes it even more humorous to me. sometimes she can't help but crack a smile, even though she tries to hold back, as not to give me the satisfaction, so I am working on her maybe in a few more years I'll be done with her humor transplant. I'm kind of like you, I was the one that did'nt completely grow up. There's too much stuff for me to be serious about, so need some way to blow off lifes steam, fortunatly she sees the humorous side of me more appealing. Maybe I should buy her a porper for christmas. she'd get a kick out of that. Would never believe I really got it for her, she'd think I used that as an excuse to get me one LOL. Greg

 

[Cue Crazy]

My wife wandered into the shop this weekend to see what I was doing. I was working on cutting shafts and was griping about how boring it was. She actually wanted me to show her how to run the shaft machine so that I could go watch the NASCAR race!!!. What a gal.

Oh stop That Now Guys! making me jeolous over here. Mine tries to pull me away, but would never run the machine so i could watch the race. What's the secret on that? slipping something extra in there coffee or what LOL. guess I still got alot to learn about women, and to think by this time i was starting to think i had them figured.

 

[cueman]

I have used Tandy Contact Cement, Barges Contact cement, Tight Bond wood glue, spray adhesive and now that I have the Angelo fixture I use Weldwood contact cement. I did not like Weldwood when I first tried it a year or so ago, as it sticks too fast to allow you to move the leather much. But with the fixture you seam the leather without any glue in that area so the fast tack doesn't bother me and it holds much better. It also spreads out thin and even. I have put on several leather wraps with it the last few weeks getting ready for the Expo.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com

 

[macguy]

I have used Tandy Contact Cement, Barges Contact cement, Tight Bond wood glue, spray adhesive and now that I have the Angelo fixture I use Weldwood contact cement. I did not like Weldwood when I first tried it a year or so ago, as it sticks too fast to allow you to move the leather much. But with the fixture you seam the leather without any glue in that area so the fast tack doesn't bother me and it holds much better. It also spreads out thin and even. I have put on several leather wraps with it the last few weeks getting ready for the Expo.
Chris
www.cuesmith.com

Do you have pictures of that ficture in action?

 

[cueman]

Do you have pictures of that ficture in action?

No, but Angelo offers a DVD showing how to use it. I really thought it was not needed, but after having it I won't go back to any of my old methods.