Glueing cloth:

dstone120647

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Hi, I have been a member for awhile but this is my first thread. So let me first say Hi to you all and I am happy to be a member with all the great people on the forum. I am trying to redo a very old A.E. Schmidt pool table or it could be a Brunswick from the late 1800's or early 1900's and the information I get from AZ is very helpful. This is mainly to Glen about the video that he was making showing how to glue Simonis cloth. Glen are you still planning on making the video and if so when will it be ready for sale. If he does not make the video can someone explain to me how it's done. I was hoping on hearing from someone that was at the Alsip,Il. workshop that Glen and Simonis had. Thank you's for the time, Dennis from St. Louis
 
stretch

What size is the table?
Is the slate wood framed on the bottom side?
It all matters...
There's a lot to it'
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Rob.M
 
Hi, I have been a member for awhile but this is my first thread. So let me first say Hi to you all and I am happy to be a member with all the great people on the forum. I am trying to redo a very old A.E. Schmidt pool table or it could be a Brunswick from the late 1800's or early 1900's and the information I get from AZ is very helpful. This is mainly to Glen about the video that he was making showing how to glue Simonis cloth. Glen are you still planning on making the video and if so when will it be ready for sale. If he does not make the video can someone explain to me how it's done. I was hoping on hearing from someone that was at the Alsip,Il. workshop that Glen and Simonis had. Thank you's for the time, Dennis from St. Louis

This post should help you - http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=888086&postcount=8
 
Glueing Cloth:

The table I have is a Pro 8 and it has the wood framing on the slate. It also has the wooden pocket shelves.
 
The table I have is a Pro 8 and it has the wood framing on the slate. It also has the wooden pocket shelves.

The size of the table or whether the slate is backed makes no difference.
You're glueing cloth to the slate not the liner.
 
Glueing Cloth:

What about the wood pocket shelves? Will the glue work on the wooden Shelves? I do want to Thank the input that has been coming, And Thanks to Dartman that link explained alot. Do you know if Glen is still coming out with the video?
 
table

So if the table is a 44X88 undersized slate with no wood framing it would be the same process as a full sized slate with wood?< Wrong'
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Rob.M
 
What about the wood pocket shelves? Will the glue work on the wooden Shelves? I do want to Thank the input that has been coming, And Thanks to Dartman that link explained alot. Do you know if Glen is still coming out with the video?

The video is in production - and has been for 2 years but expect to hear something on it soon.

Look at the pics from that link again -
There's a technique to finishing the liner in the pockets using a stapler and glue -
maybe one of the other guys here (or Glen) has the link to that post handy.

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cloth

Wake up.
Doing unbacked slate is the same as doing Valley slate.

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According to who?
There is a few of us who know A secret or two about how cloth installation of a bar table and a full sized slate is A different process....
I'm bet all the balls that a certified mechanic would agree'
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Robert.M
 
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According to who?
There is a few of us who know A secret or two about how cloth installation of a bar table and a full sized slate is A different process....
I'm bet all the balls that a certified mechanic would agree'
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Robert.M

No worries - just keep believing that. :boring2:
 
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According to who?
There is a few of us who know A secret or two about how cloth installation of a bar table and a full sized slate is A different process....
I'm bet all the balls that a certified mechanic would agree'
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Robert.M

wow!!!!! Certified ?????
 
cloth

Yeep' -the valley has a undersized slate compared to a full size slate that has the rails bolted down to it'
Undersize slate has less of a pocket cut than the full sized slate'-
Little hint'. No need to start at the side pockets
-have a good day'
Rob.M
 
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The post by Dartman showing how Glen does it is very usefull. He says to have 7/8 to be able to have the slack to do the side pockets on a table that has a long pocket shelf. On a table that does not have a long pocket shelf what would be the amount to leave for the side pockets?
 
cloth

The post by Dartman showing how Glen does it is very usefull. He says to have 7/8 to be able to have the slack to do the side pockets on a table that has a long pocket shelf. On a table that does not have a long pocket shelf what would be the amount to leave for the side pockets?

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Depends on thickness of the slate and cut of the pocket, the thicker the slate the more slack in the side pocket ..
Maybe he will have something about it in the dvdz..
-he might spill the beans early'
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Rob.M
 
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The post by Dartman showing how Glen does it is very usefull. He says to have 7/8 to be able to have the slack to do the side pockets on a table that has a long pocket shelf. On a table that does not have a long pocket shelf what would be the amount to leave for the side pockets?

Dstone
I am an amateur at this but refelted my table 6 months ago. I can tell you that Rick/ Dartman was very helpful in not only supplying all the necessary components for my job at a fair price but also was very helpful with some of the details necessary to do it right. He slees cloth glue and rubber among other things and they shipped very quickly.

Here are a couple links to videos on You tube which were helpful to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rr8JAT7VWo&feature=related<br%20/><br%20/>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arYF5YqgW7Q&feature=related


This one shows how to do the rails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lnoyNgv8Es

Syracuse John
 
The post by Dartman showing how Glen does it is very usefull. He says to have 7/8 to be able to have the slack to do the side pockets on a table that has a long pocket shelf. On a table that does not have a long pocket shelf what would be the amount to leave for the side pockets?

Dennis

One more plug for Dartman, here is his website:

http://www.poolfelt.com/index.html

He even called me to give me some tips when I couldn't communicate clearly in written form what my problem was.

SyracuseJohn
 
If you do a search on youtube for pool table recovering, you'll run across a guy putting on new cloth on a Diamond table using the glue method (it's a 2 part video). I ran across it last night. Damn good video. He even has what looks like a piece of board that he places on the table lenthways to mark off how much to strech the cloth sideways ( I believe he was installing Simonis). After seeing this video, rest assured you'd never use staples again except for the rails. Personally, I'm waiting for RKC to come out with his video and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
 
The post by Dartman showing how Glen does it is very usefull. He says to have 7/8 to be able to have the slack to do the side pockets on a table that has a long pocket shelf. On a table that does not have a long pocket shelf what would be the amount to leave for the side pockets?

The 7/8 was on the start (first) side of 1.25" slate. The opposite side you can back off to 5/8.
The slack you build into the side pockets lets the cloth fall into the pocket so you're not fighting to stretch it.
On thinner slate you back off the slack measurements.
 
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