Golden Fleece rumor
- Thread starter jtompilot
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Damn, annoying news for those of us that don’t even have access to 9’ tables. I wouldn’t ever think of going to a hall and banging on a box. You can do that anywhere.
Maybe stuff like this will lead to more private rooms. Would be nice to see more " training" like environments.
I think for big-table fans that a Co-op membership based room is the way to go. Have 24hr access keycards, split the bills and everyone polices the joint when they leave. Like this place in Minnesota: https://www.mplsbilliardclub.com/about.html
L.S. Dennis
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There's private key club in New York that's like this that opened up recently. This sort of thing may be the future for the serious players, as bar boxes seem to be more commercially viable for non private establishments.
Rusty in Montana
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Look at the bright side at least the 9' tables are being replaced with bar boxes and not poker and keno machines for instance the flag ship of the Corner Pocket Franchise in Billings is all machines and the Play Inn went from bar boxes to machines with just one bar box tucked into a corner from 14 tables at one time .
I agree I miss playing on a 9' table whenever I wanted to but I don't have the space or now money to buy one to play on .
With a private pool hall Brother's Billiards next to the Play Inn in Billings Heights .
I agree I miss playing on a 9' table whenever I wanted to but I don't have the space or now money to buy one to play on .
With a private pool hall Brother's Billiards next to the Play Inn in Billings Heights .
xX-Wizard-Xx
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this is horrible news ...
BB's definitely make more money. You can't blame these owners for knowing what pays the bills. If anyone's ever in Tulsa stop in Magoo's, 10 nice GC4's, 1 ProAm and 2 old Pros that were used on the CamelTour. I think they'll eventually add more bb's(have 16now) but for bigtable fans its the nuts. Day rate is 4/hr per person til 6p then it goes to 11hr/table.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I believe that's a huge reason why Europe is dominating professional pool. Actual equipment and training programs.
Europe also does not have any culture/history with the small table. All they play on is 9fts. I just don't think you'll ever see the US producing world-class big table players in the future. Pool, on the bb, is very popular in the the Midwest US but other than 1p next to nobody plays on 9fts. They don't have the time/desire to put in what it takes to play 9fts. Simple as that. A good example is the bb event going on now in Olathe: 260 players, NO Fargo. Its about 100 over the usual due to the fact they haven't done one since covid but this event always has big turnouts. If it was on 9ft they MIGHT get 64 but i doubt it.
barbox/ barpool has a big following just because it's whats in bars. and what so many learn on and play on.
also for a weaker player they get to make more balls and its more fun rather than missing so much and tight pockets.
and for the slightly better player they can get out more often as position play isn't as important as the shots are easier.
so with 4 or so balls left they have a chance of getting out where on a big table they don't as often.
also for a weaker player they get to make more balls and its more fun rather than missing so much and tight pockets.
and for the slightly better player they can get out more often as position play isn't as important as the shots are easier.
so with 4 or so balls left they have a chance of getting out where on a big table they don't as often.
9fts in general, tight ones even more, require a time/$$ investment that most people are not going to do. to develop ANY decent skillset on a 9ft takes time and patience to acquire. Few people are willing to do so. In the US bb's will continue as the main arena. Pro pool's resurgence MIGHT move the needle a tad but not much.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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US might as well stop showing up at major pro events .... getting more and more irrelevant since all we can muster the gumption for are bar box ....
i guess it just takes to much energy to walk the extra couple feet around the table ... soon some american will invent a conveyor belt to move us around the table ... walking is just to much trouble
i guess it just takes to much energy to walk the extra couple feet around the table ... soon some american will invent a conveyor belt to move us around the table ... walking is just to much trouble
Crazy that they have more demand for the BB to me. I get playing on the BB because that’s what you have access too but when faced with the choice I would never choose BB over a big table.
Being in the Midwest it’s mostly BBs around here but thankfully we have one place here with 8 9’ Diamonds and that’s where I play 95% of the time.
Being in the Midwest it’s mostly BBs around here but thankfully we have one place here with 8 9’ Diamonds and that’s where I play 95% of the time.
xX-Wizard-Xx
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i bitch about bar tables to the manager everytime i go to a place
I see your point but playing on 9ft is not just about walking a lil more. The lion's share of players in the US are never going to play much on big boxes. When you combine league pool and the number of bb events it just adds up to not a lot of 9ft pool. There are a LOT of players in my general area(Ok,ks,Tx,Mo,Ark) and i'd say 90+% all play only on little tables. There's no money to be made on them, league or tournament. Only 1p gets played on them and not much of that.
Willowbrook Wolfy
Going pro
I’m in the 9 footer group. But it is crazy that some really good players have actually embraced the whole 7 footer wave. I know 2 or 3 that switched their tables at home even. Not all 3 are great players.
Growing up I had a 7 footer at home and now I have a 9. Guess I’m backwards in more than just my thoughts.
Growing up I had a 7 footer at home and now I have a 9. Guess I’m backwards in more than just my thoughts.
simple fact is they pay the bills in almost every spot. place i play has 13 big tables and they're only busy on fri/sat night. only reason they get used then is they don't have enough bb's. the more serious players play mostly during the day. maybe half of the bigs get used by better players during the day. they could take out every big table and it wouldn't cost them a quarter, they'd probably make more money. sad but true. VERY few actual big table lovers around here.