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[whammo57]

sooooooooooooo 10 years ago when I was just starting out and learning how to build cues............... there were a number of assholes that treated me like shit every time I asked a stupid question.............. most are gone now.......... and good riddance............. that is why I will help most newbees with questions............ and occasionally I will torture one of them when they ask fail to do a little research before asking.............. please read the archives ........... read all and yes all the "ask the cuemaker" archives.................

 

[mikemosconi]

Well, the internet coming of age like it has sort of forced people to change their attitudes a bit about sharing information - they know now that most likely you can ge the info even if they will not share it with you.

Years ago pool players themselves were notorious for NOT sharing playing instructions.Now it is all out there anyhow. I remember about 20 years ago being at a tournament and asking a pro ( I won't say his name ) how he managed a particular shot and resulting position- his response: " I really don't know. I just play"

 

[Michael Webb]

sooooooooooooo 10 years ago when I was just starting out and learning how to build cues............... there were a number of assholes that treated me like shit every time I asked a stupid question.............. most are gone now.......... and good riddance............. that is why I will help most newbees with questions............ and occasionally I will torture one of them when they ask fail to do a little research before asking.............. please read the archives ........... read all and yes all the "ask the cuemaker" archives.................

Your sounding all warm and fuzzy.
Yayyyyyy

 

[cueman]

Well, the internet coming of age like it has sort of forced people to change their attitudes a bit about sharing information - they know now that most likely you can ge the info even if they will not share it with you.

Years ago pool players themselves were notorious for NOT sharing playing instructions.Now it is all out there anyhow. I remember about 20 years ago being at a tournament and asking a pro ( I won't say his name ) how he managed a particular shot and resulting position- his response: " I really don't know. I just play"

That player may have been telling the truth. We have a saying around our shop that says. YOU CAN'T BUY THE BITE. The saying originated when a couple of cuemakers traveled to France to inquire about buying a tip making company. The old man took them around his shop and showed them how to cut the leather and punch out and shape the tips. Then he showed them how to cure the leather. He had all kinds of hides soaking in chemicals which he vowed to reveal the secret formulas once a deal is made. They asked how long he soaked them and he replied when they pass the test. They asked if he would show them the test. He said sure it was very simple and picked up a hide and bit the edge. They passed on buying the business as they could buy the equipment and trade secrets, but could never buy the bite.
Playing and cue making are no different. YOU CAN'T BUY THE BITE.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Cue building is just like anything else that takes skill - there are some people who will show you everything and some people will show you nothing. I respect both.

I find it's just as easy to type your question into google then it is to start a new thread. Generally, the question you have has already been answered in a forum somewhere. I will usually be at my wits end before I ask specific questions.

That being said - thanks to all those that have answered questions in the Ask The Cuemaker forum :thumbup2:

 

[JohnnyOzone]

That player may have been telling the truth. We have a saying around our shop that says. YOU CAN'T BUY THE BITE. The saying originated when a couple of cuemakers traveled to France to inquire about buying a tip making company. The old man took them around his shop and showed them how to cut the leather and punch out and shape the tips. Then he showed them how to cure the leather. He had all kinds of hides soaking in chemicals which he vowed to reveal the secret formulas once a deal is made. They asked how long he soaked them and he replied when they pass the test. They asked if he would show them the test. He said sure it was very simple and picked up a hide and bit the edge. They passed on buying the business as they could buy the equipment and trade secrets, but could never buy the bite.
Playing and cue making are no different. YOU CAN'T BUY THE BITE.

So, you have to "bite a million tips" to gain the knowledge?

 

[cueman]

So, you have to "bite a million tips" to gain the knowledge?

Not to gain knowledge but to gain feel. AKA THE BITE. You have to hit thousands of balls to have a feel for playing pool. Two cooks can use the same recipe and one will make the dish taste better than the other. We call that having a feel for cooking. The man had a feel for knowing how hard that leather felt in his teeth. Yes that came from years of experience. We are talking about developing a feel for something. That is something that is part of your being going above head knowledge. You can give someone head knowledge. In other words you can read my book on cue building and watch all my dvds yet your first cue will not likely be as good as your 100th one even if you use the exact same methods the whole time. You won't because you will learn other ways, but you will develop a feel for things that knowledge can't provide. That is why one cuemaker on here got banned for calling people youtube cuemakers. He was not knocking the people who made the videos but the people who think they are experts because they have some head knowledge and no feel for or extensive experience in cuemaking. You can't buy feel and you can't buy the bite!