Im looking for a good all around tip, meaning playing and breaking. Im currently using a moori med on my omen now but Im going to have another cue made and its going to be an all around cue. I love my omen b/j but sometimes I dont feel like bringing both cues. What tip would be a good one for what Im looking for. Im thinking about maybe a moori quick or another good hard layered tip but Im afraid of the miscueing associated with hard tips. Any suggestions? Thanks
Good all around tip
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As you can tell from my avatar, I'm a fan of Talisman layered tips. I've been using and installing the Talisman Pro line for about 5 years. They hold their shape well, hold chalk well and do NOT mushroom. The Medium is a great all-around tip. I use a Soft, but I play mostly 1-Pocket. You may need to become accustomed to the new tip to avoid an occasional miscue.
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NOSAJ03 said:
Everest gets my vote.
My vote for Talisman
NOSAJ03 said:
Tips
I wouldn't recommend a Talisman myself, I've had one delaminate. I don't like the feel of the hit for some reason. Haven't tried the water buffalo.
For a medium priced tip, I really like the Everest tips by Tiger.
I wouldn't recommend a Talisman myself, I've had one delaminate. I don't like the feel of the hit for some reason. Haven't tried the water buffalo.
For a medium priced tip, I really like the Everest tips by Tiger.
I've had 3 out of 4 talismans delaminate on me (2 pros, 1 wb) and the installation directions on their website was followed to a T.
Many were not obvious delams in the sense that the tips came apart; rather, they were failures in one or two layer between the stack, so to speak. The tips mushed up, and sometimes developed a clicking sound.
It's really a shame cause I enjoyed dealing with Tony from Talisman, his customer service is certainly A+ but the product simply falls short. Just my experience.
I use Mooris and Molavias, never had a problem at all. I don't recommend breaking with your playing cue, but if you have to a hard tip is probably what you need.
Many were not obvious delams in the sense that the tips came apart; rather, they were failures in one or two layer between the stack, so to speak. The tips mushed up, and sometimes developed a clicking sound.
It's really a shame cause I enjoyed dealing with Tony from Talisman, his customer service is certainly A+ but the product simply falls short. Just my experience.
I use Mooris and Molavias, never had a problem at all. I don't recommend breaking with your playing cue, but if you have to a hard tip is probably what you need.
Troy said:
This was talked about on other boards, so it's not a new subject asides from my input here. As I said, outright delams were rare, though it did happen with one WB. Most of the failures were in "popped," spongy layers inside the stack, and perceptive players WILL pick this up (but many won't). If you are not sensitive to the hit and sound of your cue, go ahead and try your luck with Talisman.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with installation. I warned the cuemakers about everything Tony said on his website, and they followed those directions. And besides, none of the other tips I use require any special care, and they held up perfectly.
The thing is, with Mooris/Molavias going for less than $10 a pop, there's no reason for me to take chances with Talisman.
back in Early Dec, i bought a 5280 sneeky-pete, which has the redline tiger tip on it. And the tip is NICE. It took a bit to scuff up at first. I do use this cue for breaking, and the Tip has yet to mushroom.
The Sniper tips grip the ball better than Moori, so if you want something more like the hit of a triangle them you will like the Sniper.NOSAJ03 said:
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stolz2 said:
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I put on my own, but if I had anyone within a 45 minute drive I'd have them put on professionally. Its not hard to put them on yourself, but with the layered tips its easier to trim them on a lathe. Of course you could buy your own lathe, but if your balking at 15 bucks for a tip your not going to want to do that either.
best tip for both
Mike Wagner from raven cues has a tip that i have from him that I use for both. It is a TREATED Elkmaster. All i know is it takes a long time for him to make them and it has something to do with soaking them in beer, then heating them or something. I am not really sure. I use it to play and break with on my speaky pete and it works great. Tonight I used it and averaged about two balls in on a break (about 8 racks). And as far as play I think it is no different than the morri medium I used to use.
COntact raven cues. I think he sells them for like only 8 bucks to the general public.
Mike Wagner from raven cues has a tip that i have from him that I use for both. It is a TREATED Elkmaster. All i know is it takes a long time for him to make them and it has something to do with soaking them in beer, then heating them or something. I am not really sure. I use it to play and break with on my speaky pete and it works great. Tonight I used it and averaged about two balls in on a break (about 8 racks). And as far as play I think it is no different than the morri medium I used to use.
COntact raven cues. I think he sells them for like only 8 bucks to the general public.
Troy said:
I too have had great experiences with Talisman. Never had any problems of any kind and I've put on about 25 of them over the last couple of years.
I use the hard Pro Talisman. I got some Morri Quick and tried them but they felt softer than the Talisman hard so I went back to using the Talisman Pro.
I have invested quite a bit of money in equipment for putting on tips although not nearly as much as a lathe would cost. I found a Willard on eBay for $250 and then all the little stuff....sandpaper, a couple of files, glue, etc. And, it's just no fun without something to spin the shaft so I put in several hours of experimentation to make a crutch tip lathe.
If you have a tip installation site available I'd recommend spend the $10 to $25 and having it done by someone that knows what they are doing. There is definitely a learning process that you must go through and this involves screwing up a shaft or two.
Outsourceing the shaft work is my recommendation. (but putting on tips myself has been a lot of fun and I have experienced some feelings of satisfaction from a job well done and a new skill learned.)