Got my free Kamui tip, but

Anyone who does not want their voucher, send me a pm. I will take any vouchers. My friend is a cuemaker and authorized kamui dealer :)
 
Daniel has been totally up front about the voucher program. He not hiding anything. In fact he goes out of his way to disclose the fact every time he's on air thanking KAMUI for such an awesome incentive. It would be fantastic to see more vendors supporting pool on a local level.
It seems misery still loves company. POV & Kamui are great for pool!
 
You guys kill me. It's not like John is asking you to run the NYC marathon to redeem product. It's simple he probably doesn't want to ship a hundred tips to everyone on a lose leader. This way he can provide an extra tip with their next order. Quick and clean. Or he simply wants to put his product in the best light and ensure the product is demonstrated in the best manner. Pretty simple. No conspiracy. No grassy knoll.

If you live in Kazakhstan and you need to get on your goat to get to a service provider it's not his fault. To be truthfully he probably wants to give away the tips and keep people coming back to use his product. If you believe in your product and your per piece costs are low then why not. People will come back and buy your high priced heroin for life. Sounds like good business.

If you won a contest for free gas for a year from Exxon and your village didn't happen to have a Exxon station would it be their fault?

Nick
 
barking4action said:
Not even going to offer $5. Wow.
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I believe you missed the little smiley face at the end, meaning that my post was in jest. I have about 10 kamui tips and I use about one a year, so I think I'm good for a while.

Apparently I need to post a joke disclaimer at the end of posts. Sorry that I disturbed your delicate sensibilities (sarcasm).
 
Lighten up.

I apologize for complaining about my voucher. After all, it is good for year. I'll be in Greensboro NC around Thanksgiving to see my mom. I'll try to get it put on then.
 
victhestick said:
I apologize for complaining about my voucher. After all, it is good for year. I'll be in Greensboro NC around Thanksgiving to see my mom. I'll try to get it put on then.
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shoot me a PM when you roll-into Greensboro "Vick-the-Tip", ;)
there are some good mechanics here, hopefully one of them is authorized to use Kamui Glue.... i'll find out this week & let you know. but it's gonna cost ya, the 6 & out!
; )
 
victhestick said:
I apologize for complaining about my voucher. After all, it is good for year. I'll be in Greensboro NC around Thanksgiving to see my mom. I'll try to get it put on then.
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See how easy it is to install? Your mom can even do it for you. Does she fix bent pins also?
 
Mark/BFDLAD will take care of you & make good. you did the right thing, bringing it to his attention. that's what this forum is for. take the rest of our jest, in stride.

(cause we're bored this weekend & we've been smoking Mark's chili!)
 
I'm sure I am being petty here, but I saw the ad for the voucher and almost thought about buying the 3 day package even though I would only have time to watch one day. The reason I almost bought the whole package was for the "voucher for a Free Kamui clear tip"... not for a voucher for a "Free Kamui tip installed by an authorized dealer".

I make my own cues and have my own shop, I would of been pretty upset if I found out after the fact I had to go somewhere other than my own garage to put the "free" tip on.

I know I have no real right to say anything about this, as I decided not to bother to buy it with my schedule limitations ... but it definitely reminds me to read the fine print in any offer.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
If it was John Bertone behind the voucher offer then I can fully understand.
Per our couple of conversations, he has never struck me as a real smart businessman.

Just sour grapes on my part on how I was treated and talked to by John. No biggy in the long run.

So if he was behind the tip offer, makes himself look good for a short bit, and then
pisses off or alienates any potential new customers.

If it wasn't John himself, then it was an equally dumb move on someone elses part.

Offer a free tip, send it out and let people put it on as they normally would. That way if they like it, they will be inclined to buy again. This way you have more people that won't try it, now or later.

If a person isn't already a Kamui user, it will leave a bad taste in their mouth and a Kamui will be the last tip they think of when it comes time for a new install.

Smooth move ExLax.

I deal with Tom Hay, Ultra Skin tips. I get enuff bonus tips and use them for that purpose. I install them for free for players that want to try them out. Who is going to resist a free tip right. They come back for more and their friends do as well.
It ensures future business for both Tom and myself.
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Tom makes the best tip for the price available today

Tom make a better tip than Kamui regardless of the price

I still play with a Moori Quick but that is because I am a dinosaur... Most of my customers prefer the Ultra Skins.
 
Nick B said:
You guys kill me. It's not like John is asking you to run the NYC marathon to redeem product. It's simple he probably doesn't want to ship a hundred tips to everyone on a lose leader. This way he can provide an extra tip with their next order. Quick and clean. Or he simply wants to put his product in the best light and ensure the product is demonstrated in the best manner. Pretty simple. No conspiracy. No grassy knoll.

If you live in Kazakhstan and you need to get on your goat to get to a service provider it's not his fault. To be truthfully he probably wants to give away the tips and keep people coming back to use his product. If you believe in your product and your per piece costs are low then why not. People will come back and buy your high priced heroin for life. Sounds like good business.

If you won a contest for free gas for a year from Exxon and your village didn't happen to have a Exxon station would it be their fault?

Nick
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Exactly it's alot more fiddling with the books/post office/everything. Now he just reimburses them for the tip.
-Instead of spending $46 on shipping tips if they can just have a stamp put on(which I seriously doubt they can)/
-paying someone in the office to enter 100 new customers/
-then paying people to fill those 100 orders of one tip.
-and this gives his dealers business which he helps the little man
-but if you have a cue repair man closer than a dealer you should suggest to him becoming a dealer as they are one of the biggest tips in the market ( you know it's like a gas station only selling Budweiser and no miller)

And if anyone feels they have now way of getting there's I would be glad to accept your kamui voucher and a stamp in the mail and next time I go to billiard pro shop www.billiardpro.com I will get it And mail it back.

Last but not least!!!!..........
if its true that its good for a year you have plenty of options....
-go to a diamond event and use there
-sent it with your local champ when he goes on the road or to a big tourney
-go to any big tournament and use there
-and if these do not interest you I will buy a few of them
-go to harbor freight and get a lathe and practice on house cues about 500$ to get started with it. (hurry you only have about 350 days to learn how to use it, but who's counting?)

Oh and by the way I'm not a dealer, work for kamui in any way, just still up dealing with a Little girl with chickenpox making sure her fever went down before I go to bed :(

But I hope everyone gets what they want and quits bickering over this little stuff like this. Because that is what's killing pool!!!!
 
hey vic...

you make a lot of sense

i Agree

so you may see more of my post to come - and it may not be pretty

all the best,
smokey

victhestick said:
Ordered an on-line pay-per-view that I would have ordered anyway, As a bonus they offered a FREE Kamui tip. Instead of a tip I received a voucher. Had to go online and find an authorized Kamui tio installer, who would install my FREE kamui tip for the normal installation charge.

The Problem:

They want me to drive 240 miles roundtrip to the nearest authorized Kamui tip installer.

I'm not really out anything. I guess Ill install another Sniper (I really love those tips) and try to find someway to survive without my FREE Kamui tip.

I'm old and I see so much of this crap that I'm barely upset enough to post this.
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hey greg...

so worthless to you - i get it now

all the best,
smokey

gregcantrall said:
Just got my voucher and had not yet investigated. I have been doing my own tips for ever and am unlikely to give my cue to anyone other than a few cue makers I know personally. So guess I will be passing on the "free Kamui tip".
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hey Yuba...

this is getting to be Gang Mentality...

i wonder why?

all the best,
smokey

YubaCushion said:
They had that in mind when they made the offer. It was bait for the people on the fence.
Then whoever makes getting the "free" tip more trouble than it's worth. I'd like to see the ratio of people that bought that ppv because they were getting the kamui, and the people that bailed on the offer because of the hassle. Who was it that did that offer. That was the Earl and Shane on the bar box.
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Blue...

i would never bother to argue with Blue...

he is too reasonable even tho he is from a foreign country [i hate foreigners that cost us jobs {this was just to be = j'k}]

but in this case especially i will have to agree with our 'Northern Brethren"

all the best,
smokey

Blue Hog ridr said:
If it was John Bertone behind the voucher offer then I can fully understand.
Per our couple of conversations, he has never struck me as a real smart businessman.

Just sour grapes on my part on how I was treated and talked to by John. No biggy in the long run.

So if he was behind the tip offer, makes himself look good for a short bit, and then
pisses off or alienates any potential new customers.

If it wasn't John himself, then it was an equally dumb move on someone elses part.

Offer a free tip, send it out and let people put it on as they normally would. That way if they like it, they will be inclined to buy again. This way you have more people that won't try it, now or later.

If a person isn't already a Kamui user, it will leave a bad taste in their mouth and a Kamui will be the last tip they think of when it comes time for a new install.

Smooth move ExLax.

I deal with Tom Hay, Ultra Skin tips. I get enuff bonus tips and use them for that purpose. I install them for free for players that want to try them out. Who is going to resist a free tip right. They come back for more and their friends do as well.
It ensures future business for both Tom and myself.
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hey bfd, so what gives...

a voucher for a "certified guy" or a voucher for a tip?

all in all, i have nothing but respect for you and all you do

pls keep that in mind before you blast me and no matter what i will always respect you

you deserve respect

all the best,
smokey


bfdlad said:
Hi Vic, Just a quick explanation. The Kamui tip promotion was obviously used to give an added bonus andincentive for people who purchased the "Decider" Shane an Earl match. It was ALWAYS promoted as a "Tip Voucher" So on that I don't believe anyone was misled.

However I am a little disturbed that the closest place you can get one is so far away. I really wasn't aware that this was how the Voucher worked. So I am sorry for the trouble and I will ask and find out if there is anything that can be done about this.

I really thought that when I was told about the opportunity to give the 1st 100 people a Kamui Tip Voucher that it was a nice bonus and that we were doing something right and good for people. I actually still think that and so I am sorry if anyone has been put out. Hopefully I can get some answers and there is a way to solve this.
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hey KK9...

you make too much sense anyway...

however, if you want a kazhooie tip that comes from out of this world, be glad you only have to jump on a plane and not a rocketship - stop b*tchin...

i guess i can't take you guys anywhere...

all the best,
smokey

KoolKat9Lives said:
I just went to kamuitips.com/contact to inquire as to where my nearest installer is. I await reply.

Hopefully I won't have to jump a plane to get to him. Mark, I hope Kamui will agree to mailing people a tip that aren't in proximity of an authorized installer. Otherwise, 50 of us hardened AZers will surely band together and youtube a Kamui voucher burning rebellion. Just kiddin!
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hey Slop, can feel ya...

i feel you - i am in Vegas and the same here...

Great point!

all the best,
smokey

Sloppy Pockets said:
Mark, I bought the stream at the last minute figuring it was too late for the offer and that was fine., so I have no right to complain. I do know what a voucher is, however, and it doesn't necessarily force one to have an item installed at an additional cost. That might be more rightly called a "bait and switch".

A voucher is:

"a small printed piece of paper that entitles the holder to a discount or that may be exchanged for goods or services"

So, I read the forum offer as "the first 100 purchasers of the PPV will receive a small printed piece of paper (or a downloadable PDF) that can be submitted to an authorized Kamui reseller for a free Kamui tip of choice"... or something along those lines.

In my case I don't think there is a professional cue repairman anywhere within easy driving distance from me. My local room advertises a "pro shop", but there is no such animal on the premises, and when I asked they said there was "a guy who can put a tip on by hand if you need one". Well, I finally met the guy and told him I was interested in breaking into the repair biz. He gave me his blessing and said he only did it as a favor and has never even used a lathe. I think he only carries Triangles and Elkmasters anyway. Lol

So, if this can't get resolved I'll just start a thread and offer mine up for free to the first responder. No way am I paying anybody to do anything with a free item. I am curious about Kamui tips, but I am also very satisfied with the UltraSkins put out by Tom Hay, and now he has come out with an ultrasoft tip, so I'm going to try one of them anyway. Just would like to have given the Kamui a chance to compare it with. But either way, no hard feelings on my part, you are doing good things for pool and I really appreciate it.:smile:
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