I didn’t know that, very cool
Got some Pagulayan chalk
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I've used the Pagulayan chalk tonight; it was a long session, about 4.5 hours.
After I got the V10 in blue, I read somewhere that it is not as good as the green; I don't understand why colour should make a difference, but when I ordered the Pagulayan chalk, I went with green to test that claim.
I'm assuming here that both the Taum V10 and the Pagulayan are the same chalk!
I find the Green Pagulayan a bit softer than the Blue V10.
It's easier to apply and hold better to the tip, especially the phenolic tip of the break and jump cue, but also to the playing medium tip.
Considering I prefer the square shape to the round shape of the V10, I think that I have a winner.
As the chalk is a bit softer than the Blue V10, it looks like it wears out a bit quicker. I still prefer it; I wish it was taller, like the cheap chalks, like Master.
I'm still curious, so this also arrived today – TP blue medium.
Haven't tried it yet. It feels softer and looks like it will be messier, but it has a built-in magnet, which is cool.
After I got the V10 in blue, I read somewhere that it is not as good as the green; I don't understand why colour should make a difference, but when I ordered the Pagulayan chalk, I went with green to test that claim.
I'm assuming here that both the Taum V10 and the Pagulayan are the same chalk!
I find the Green Pagulayan a bit softer than the Blue V10.
It's easier to apply and hold better to the tip, especially the phenolic tip of the break and jump cue, but also to the playing medium tip.
Considering I prefer the square shape to the round shape of the V10, I think that I have a winner.
As the chalk is a bit softer than the Blue V10, it looks like it wears out a bit quicker. I still prefer it; I wish it was taller, like the cheap chalks, like Master.
I'm still curious, so this also arrived today – TP blue medium.
Haven't tried it yet. It feels softer and looks like it will be messier, but it has a built-in magnet, which is cool.
Flakeandrun
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I was told the green is supposed to be harder than the blue. That's certainly my experience. So it's interesting your thoughts and experience have panned out this way. It IS Taom (as is Ding Jun Hui chalk, and MW has also produced a chalk with them), and Pags claims that it's some kind of 'special formula' from them, but that is likely marketing yarn spun to sell. I was given a couple of pieces of Pagulayan (along with some unreleased chalks from a brand I was told not to post about). Have some of the DJH I was given a long time ago. All good enough. All just chalk.
TP have just released Pro+ ...which is apparently a new formula, and uses the same newer box design as their grey/pink but it is black. Pink is no longer being made (they tried to make a harder Taom style chalk, but it was prone to cracking/breaking (and they partner with JOY who were not keen on the pink on their green cloth...which is more likely the reason they won't continue with it. The pink colour did a good job making their brand more visible to a certain audience though) Grey will continue to be made, and is a nice chalk. I suspect Pro+ is the same as their old chalk in a new box, but it helps to say 'new formula' when the pricing is likely to go up a little. TP make solid product.I'm still curious, so this also arrived today – TP blue medium.
Haven't tried it yet. It feels softer and looks like it will be messier, but it has a built-in magnet, which is cool.
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Flakeandrun
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The marketing/advertising of this new product makes way more sense then the random as hell adverts they had for their pink chalk (which was like chalk washing up on an Icelandic beach and fashionista silliness)
Let's hope not!!
Flakeandrun
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Been thinking about this whilst I am busy avoiding my morning emails lol Do you think perhaps the fact the blue chalk has been used has condensed it, and therefore currently giving the impression that it is harder than the fresh out the package chalk? If they were both brand spanking new, I wonder if you would feel the same?
Dr. Dave did scientific Chalk comparison, no BS, just a PHD doing some great comparisons. Bottom line Dr. Dave was not seeing nothing to full pockets with MOLA. Just presenting scientific facts. IMHO Chalk is Chalk if you Chalk for each shot.
I’ve used both V-10 and Pagulayan in green. In my opinion the Pag is a tad softer than the V-10. On the flip side doesn’t last quite as long. But very close to the exact same. I’m switching back to the Pagulayan because I like the softer chalk. But can’t go wrong with either one.
The V10 is quite new as well and it behaves the same as day one.
Don’t need PHD to see differences.
Master and other brands leave more marks on the cue ball which may result in more skids and overall dirtier balls and table.
My hands also get dirtier with those chalks.
I don’t care for those comparisons where they test how many shots can be made before you need to chalk again, as you should chalk on every shot.
It’s just nice that everything is cleaner with those chalks.
As someone else wrote, saying the Pagulayan green is softer than the green V10, I might suspect that although made by the same company, it’s not exactly the same chalk.
I like the softer texture of the Pagulayan.
Flakeandrun
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I'm currently using the blue Pagulayan chalk, and it does the trick. I like it. It applies to all cues easily. It does leave more noticeable marks on the CB than the pink TP I used prior, but then it is a much easier to spot contrast on the ball given that it's blue. It certainly leaves less than Zen, Master and other brands I have seen. I'm one of those people cleaning the CB every rack, so I tend to notice marks others might be content to ignore.
Don’t get me wrong.
The Blue V10 works great, just for me the Green Pagulayan works better. It could also be an effect of weather and humidity in different countries.
I do prefer blue chalk so when the time will come, I might order some blue Pagulayan to test.
Most of what you say V-10 don't do is from People using too much CHALK. IMHO.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
When the rule of thumb is chalk after every shot you'll get that. It's better to have too much chalk than not enough so you can't blame them. Not everyone knows how to chalk appropriately and I don't waste the time to teach them. And if you take the time to teach them you look like a jackass.
With V10 you can properly apply it and it sticks. With traditional chalks clouds come off the tip when you strike the CB, going directly into the cloth. Watch Dr. Dave's slow motion/high speed videos and you can see huge chalk clouds upon impact. Then you either spend your time vacuuming the table or look like you gave Papa Smurf a hand job after a few hours of play. Not to mention how chalk slows the cloth down and effects how the rails rebound.
$20 isn't bad for a year and a half supply of chalk. Anybody that says it is has a few screws loose. You can barely buy a value meal at McDonalds for $20 nowadays.
Notice I'm not shitting on Masters, but anyone I know who has tried V10 just loves it and they usually give their masters away to the pool hall or some kid starting out. I get it, you like Masters and there's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't make you the authority on chalk, even if you watched a few videos from a guy with a PHD. Preferences are by definition neither right or wrong. You can't logically argue preferences, there is no right or wrong. Personally I prefer the cleanliness and longevity of V10/Pagulayan. You prefer Masters, and that's okay too.
