GSBT July 23-24 $1500 added amateur 9-ball at Borderline Billiards in Bristol, TN

coop19772002

coop19772002

The GSBT
Silver Member
The GSBT and Nick Varner Cues and Cases Presents

The BORDERLINE Amateur 9-ball tournament
JuLY 23-24, 2011
$1,500 Added Guaranteed A/B Amateur 9-ball Tournament

BORDERLINE BILLIARDS
628 State Street
Bristol, TENNESSEE
423-989-7665
http://www.borderlinebilliards.biz
(owned and operated by WPBA pro Janet Atwell)

NO TOUR CARDS TO PLAY IN GSBT EVENTS!!
Regular player entry fee: $60 (includes tournament/registration fee)
Player discounts: Must have proper league card, drivers license, military id to receive discount!!
League players: (APA, BCA, TAP) $50(includes tournament/registration fee)
Seniors: (60 & up) $50 (includes tournament/regstration fee)
Juniors: (14 & under) $50 (includes tournament/registration fee)
Military: (active w/ ID) $50 (includes tournament/registration fee)
Ladies: (non-touring pro) $30 (includes registration fee)

**A $24 tournament / registration fee is taken out of the entry fee. The rest is added to the tourney prize fund.
Ladies who pay $30 to play a $10 registration fee is taken out. The other $20 is added to the tourney prize fund.

When 3 or more ladies enter the tournament there is a separate $50 prize fund paid out by the GSBT for the top lady. Just an extra incentinve for all of the ladies to get in here and battle with the guys!

** PLAYERS MUST HAVE A VALID ID TO PLAY IN THE AMATEUR EVENTS!!
A/B Amateur Events-NO PROS ALLOWED!!
Player rank will be determined by prior tournament play. For more information, please contact Shannon Daulton - 865-850-4572.

Match Races:
There are 4 ranks of players: AA, A, B, & C.
AA: race to 11
A: race to 9
B: race to 7
C: race to 6

Rules & Details:
-Lag for the break
-Rack your own balls w the 2 ball in the back of the rack
-Alternate the break
-Texas Express rules
-Double elimination and TRUE double elimination finals!
-9-ball does not count on the break in the bottom two pockets (NEW RULE)
-9 ft Gold Crown IV

Start time:
Free practice at noon
Auction to start at 1:30 SHARP
- $10 optional bid for each player

LIVE Streaming by the GSBT:
You can watch your favorite pool player or family member LIVE every weekend on USTREAM. Please pass this on to your friends and family. You can view any archived videos or LIVE matches at:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/greatsouthernbilliardtour

GSBT 2011 Sponsors:

Title Sponsor: Nick Varner Cues & Cases
http://www.nickvarner.com

Andy Gilbert Custom Cues

The True Triangle - Delta-13 rack
http://www.delta-13.com

Tiger Products
http://www.tigerproducts.com

Mike Davis Exterminating
Greer, SC
864-877-6815

Murfreesboro Billiard Club
1253 Northwest Broad Street
Murfreesboro, TN
615-893-0088

Media Sponsors:

AZ Billiards
http://www.azbilliards.com

Inside Pool
http://www.insidepoolmag.com

Professor Q-Ball
http://www.professorqball.com

GSBT Tournament Trail:

**NEW STOP**
July 30-31, 2011
Mickey Milligan's Billiards & Sports Bar
3411 Trent Road
New Bern, NORTH CAROLINA
252-637-3711
9 ft Diamonds

August 6-7, 2011
Diamond Billiards
13184 Midlothian Turnpike (in the Village Marketplace)
Midlothian, VIRGINIA
(804) 794-8787
http://www.diamondbilliardsllc.com
$1,500 added guaranteed amateur 9-ball
9 ft Gold Crowns

**NEW STOP**
August 13-14, 2011
Brown's Billiards
5500 Atlantic Springs Road
Raleigh, NORTH CAROLINA
919-878-9092
http://www.brownsbilliards.com
$1,500 added guaranteed amateur 9-ball
9 ft Brunswicks

**NEW ROOM** GRAND OPENING TOURNAMENT
August 20-21, 2011
The Club House Bar and Billiards
21174 Timberlake Road
Lynchburg, VIRGINIA
434-851-4100
http://www.theclubhousebarandbilliards.com
$1,500 added amateur 9-ball
8 Diamond bar table and 3 Diamond 9 fters

August 27-28, 2011
Fast Eddie's Sports Bar
1308 Parkway Drive
Goldsboro, NORTH CAROLINA
919-759-0071
$1,500 added amateur 9-ball
Sat. night 10-ball ring game
9ft Brunswicks

**NEW ROOM GRAND OPENING TOURNAMENT**
September 10-11, 2011
Shore Thing Bar and Billiards
942 Lake Arrowhead Road
Myrtle Beach, SOUTH CAROLINA
843-712-1905
http://www.facebook.com/ShoreThingBilliards
$1,500 added amateur 9-ball
7 ft Diamond bar tables - 1 Diamond 9 fter for ACTION!


To join the Great Southern Billiard Tours email list:
please send an email to greatsouthernbilliardtour@yahoo.com or
visit our website at: www.greatsouthernbilliardtour.com

To purchase a *NEW GSBT LOGO* tshirt visit the website www.greatsouthernbilliardtour.com and go into the store to order online!

Keep shootin',

Shannon "The Cannon" Daulton & Marge Cooper
 
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coop19772002 said:

Regular player entry fee: $60 (includes tournament/registration fee)
Player discounts: Must have proper league card, drivers license, military id to receive discount!!
League players: (APA, BCA, TAP) $50(includes tournament/registration fee)
Seniors: (60 & up) $50 (includes tournament/regstration fee)
Juniors: (14 & under) $50 (includes tournament/registration fee)
Military: (active w/ ID) $50 (includes tournament/registration fee)
Ladies: (non-touring pro) $30 (includes registration fee)
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How much "EXACTLY" is taken out for fees and "EXACTLY" how much goes into the prize fund from all the different entry fees listed ?

Are there any other fees?
 
coopersschon said:
How much "EXACTLY" is taken out for fees and "EXACTLY" how much goes into the prize fund from all the different entry fees listed ?

Are there any other fees?
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Don't see any other tour director answering that question. Oh, tell Janis I love how part of his "package" to pool rooms includes cues valued at full MSRP, hilarious.
 
Considering this GSBT/AZ fiasco: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=221554&highlight=gsbt one would think that the GSBT would want to give full disclosure about the fees at there events.

On the average from that thread it looks like the GSBT keeps about $30 per player for themselves regardless of the what entry fee the player is. I am not positive it is this much so I to would like to know what portion of the entry fee is held back and not put into the prize fund.

Every respectable tour and tournament promoter appears to have these specific amounts on there advertisements so it is definitely not unreasonable to ask this question. A few clicks here in the AZ Tournament section will show you that most do this.

Looking at the last event the GSBT had in Conyers GA ( info can be found here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8741 ), if all 33 players paid $60 to get in and there was $1,500 added to the prize fund the total entry fee take was $1,980. Of that $1,980 only $875 Made it's way into the prize fund so that means the tour kept $1,105 of the entry fees which breaks down to the tour kept $33.48 per player and only $26.51 per player made it's way into the prize fund.

Or if all the players paid the nominal fee of $50 per player to enter the event then only about 50% of the entry fees made it into the prize fund in this best case scenario.

Either way I think the original question of "
How much "EXACTLY" is taken out for fees and "EXACTLY" how much goes into the prize fund from all the different entry fees listed ?" needs to be answered.
 
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1344fry said:
Considering this GSBT/AZ fiasco: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=221554&highlight=gsbt one would think that the GSBT would want to give full disclosure about the fees at there events.

On the average from that thread it looks like the GSBT keeps about $30 per player for themselves regardless of the what entry fee the player is. I am not positive it is this much so I to would like to know what portion of the entry fee is held back and not put into the prize fund.

Every respectable tour and tournament promoter appears to have these specific amounts on there advertisements so it is definitely not unreasonable to ask this question. A few clicks here in the AZ Tournament section will show you that most do this.

Looking at the last event the GSBT had in Conyers GA ( info can be found here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8741 ), if all 33 players paid $60 to get in and there was $1,500 added to the prize fund the total entry fee take was $1,980. Of that $1,980 only $875 Made it's way into the prize fund so that means the tour kept $1,105 of the entry fees which breaks down to the tour kept $33.48 per player and only $26.51 per player made it's way into the prize fund.

Or if all the players paid the nominal fee of $50 per player to enter the event then only about 50% of the entry fees made it into the prize fund in this best case scenario.

Either way I think the original question of "
How much "EXACTLY" is taken out for fees and "EXACTLY" how much goes into the prize fund from all the different entry fees listed ?" needs to be answered.
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Hmmmm. Let's look at another prominent tour in the South, the Maxim Billiards tour. At their "economy buster" price, players pay $30 entry fee ($10 to registration & greens fees) + either a $10 1x fee or $30 for a 12 month card. So, if this player pays $40 to play, 50% of what he/she pays is going into the prize pool. I see what's coming next, buy the tour card and you'll save money. However, given the wide range of locales the tour travels to (NC, VA, GA, FL, MS, TN, LA) and rising travel costs, most players will only be going to a select few events, so buying the tour card may actually be a bad deal.

The GSBT events I have attended has led me to believe the vast majority of entrants are league players and that most of the $60 entrants are balanced out by a $30 female entry. So for arguments sake, let's assume A) you are right & GSBT is keeping 45%-50% of entries, and B) I am right that the vast majority of Maxim players pay the $40 per event instead of getting the card. Given that, why aren't you going after Maxim as well?
 
TimKrazyMon said:
Hmmmm. Let's look at another prominent tour in the South, the Maxim Billiards tour. At their "economy buster" price, players pay $30 entry fee ($10 to registration & greens fees) + either a $10 1x fee or $30 for a 12 month card. So, if this player pays $40 to play, 50% of what he/she pays is going into the prize pool. I see what's coming next, buy the tour card and you'll save money. However, given the wide range of locales the tour travels to (NC, VA, GA, FL, MS, TN, LA) and rising travel costs, most players will only be going to a select few events, so buying the tour card may actually be a bad deal.

The GSBT events I have attended has led me to believe the vast majority of entrants are league players and that most of the $60 entrants are balanced out by a $30 female entry. So for arguments sake, let's assume A) you are right & GSBT is keeping 45%-50% of entries, and B) I am right that the vast majority of Maxim players pay the $40 per event instead of getting the card. Given that, why aren't you going after Maxim as well?
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I am not "GOING AFTER" any tour. I am asking for a fee breakdown like the other tours and tournaments do. Yes, just like the Maxim Tour does and many, many other events.

PS.. Tim, I sure hope you are not a representative of the GSBT as you make a lousy rep. But that's just my opinion.

I should also mention that it is a shame the GSBT can't answer a few simple questions regarding the events they hold. I have now seen at least 2 different unanswered questions. 1 about fees withheld from the events entry fees and the 2nd about why they failed to add the money they promised as guaranteed added to the event. Not good business IMO.
 
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1344fry said:
I am not "GOING AFTER" any tour. I am asking for a fee breakdown like the other tours and tournaments do. Yes, just like the Maxim Tour does and many, many other events.

PS.. Tim, I sure hope you are not a representative of the GSBT as you make a lousy rep. But that's just my opinion.

I should also mention that it is a shame the GSBT can't answer a few simple questions regarding the events they hold. I have now seen at least 2 different unanswered questions. 1 about fees withheld from the events entry fees and the 2nd about why they failed to add the money they promised as guaranteed added to the event. Not good business IMO.
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not a rep, just not understanding why you continually go after good people.
 
I wish I could play in one of these. Sound like great tournaments. I added them to my tournament list on my site. Hope they fill up for you! :thumbup:
 
This will solve ALL questions that anyone has about the GSBT entry fees and what is put in the prize fund and what we take as compensation for our time, efforts, and promoting that we do.

All entries (except ladies) regardless if it is a discounted player, meaning league, senior, junior, or military, or a regular entry a $24 registration/ tournament fee is taken out. For the women players who pay $30, a $10 registration/tournament fee is taken. This info is on the fliers and I will definitely ADD this to the threads and add a separate section on our Great Southern Billiard Tour website. If any of you have attended a GSBT tournament you will see that before the first round is completed the pay outs are posted with all of this info. There is nothing to hide here!

If you think the tournament/registration fee is too much let me give you a little run down of the things we have expenses for throughout the year. Well, for example just today I put a brand new set of tires on our vehicle, wear and tear and oil changes every 3000 miles, gas, office supplies (ink, copies, mailings, post office fees, ect), crystal trophy for each winner at every tournament, $50 to the highest lady finisher, countless hours of computer/phone work, food while we are on the road, and sometimes an extra hotel expense for the tournaments that are further away depending on when we finish.

I don't mind answering any and all questions to anyone who has concerns, it just seems like it's the same ones over and over again. I have said this before maybe our tour is not a good fit for you or you may think of starting your own business venture, or you may already have one that is failing. In any case, again we don't have anything to hide and if you think we are getting rich running this tour you are saddly mistaken. Take for instance this past weekend, we had 33 players not such a hot turn out. Alot of players are in Vegas for the BCA, so we didn't get a good showing. When we do have a good turn out of let's say 70 to 80 players it equals out just as it does in any business. The ones that are really interested will understand. The others will continue to bash, which is okay. We will continue to run the GSBT with honesty and integrity.

Thanks and hope this answers your questions and gives you a better understanding of how the GSBT operates.
 
1344fry said:
Considering this GSBT/AZ fiasco: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=221554&highlight=gsbt one would think that the GSBT would want to give full disclosure about the fees at there events.

On the average from that thread it looks like the GSBT keeps about $30 per player for themselves regardless of the what entry fee the player is. I am not positive it is this much so I to would like to know what portion of the entry fee is held back and not put into the prize fund.

Every respectable tour and tournament promoter appears to have these specific amounts on there advertisements so it is definitely not unreasonable to ask this question. A few clicks here in the AZ Tournament section will show you that most do this.

Looking at the last event the GSBT had in Conyers GA ( info can be found here: http://www.azbilliards.com/2000storya.php?storynum=8741 ), if all 33 players paid $60 to get in and there was $1,500 added to the prize fund the total entry fee take was $1,980. Of that $1,980 only $875 Made it's way into the prize fund so that means the tour kept $1,105 of the entry fees which breaks down to the tour kept $33.48 per player and only $26.51 per player made it's way into the prize fund.

Or if all the players paid the nominal fee of $50 per player to enter the event then only about 50% of the entry fees made it into the prize fund in this best case scenario.

Either way I think the original question of "
How much "EXACTLY" is taken out for fees and "EXACTLY" how much goes into the prize fund from all the different entry fees listed ?" needs to be answered.
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Just to let you know I was not dodging your questions, I hope they have been answered in my reply, if you also would like me to post how many reg entries, league, seniors, juniors, military, and ladies that we had at the Conyers event this weekend~ along with their names, I will gladly do that too so that your numbers will add up. Just shows when the public speculates on what players paid and then try to add the numbers they never add up, geez I wonder why? Because again you are guessing and trying to cast stones.
 
The thread has been changed. I will spend more time tomorrow to add this info to all of the other threads as well.

Thanks!
 
I get increasingly tired of these "bean counters" that question every tournament or tour. Everyone seems to want something for nothing or want 100% of the entry to be given out as prize fund. These are the same nits who want the 6 out and the snap I would bet.

Well, it takes money to run these things. I for one damn sure wouldn't do it for free. Matter of fact, given what the TD and promoter stand to make, I would want MORE to do it, not less.

There's a simple solution for people bashing on the potential of turning 60 bucks into 1000+ for a couple days of good competitive play...stay home. You're just going to get smoked anyway. If you think otherwise, come out and put your money where your mouth is.

Sorry for the rant....This stuff is getting on my nerves lately.

Back to a bump for a great tourney.
 
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This is gonna be a good one!! Don't miss out on all of the FUN!! Very nice room, good food, great playing tables, - Borderline Billiards is the place to be!!
 
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