Gus or Barry Szamboti?

hangemhigh said:
The one thing I am sure of is this: Gus Szamboti made every one of His cues to be played.

that is 100% true .... when i was using Barry's own Gus, i would even break with it and if i let it off even a little, barry would say " you can hit harder .. dont worry ... " and so i would ... best break cue ever !!!!!!

and it played like a dream.......

thanks barry :) it was a fun afternoon ..........
 
HIRUN526 said:
Ken (Highend cues) has said it best. The only thing I would add is that for my "player" as was asked I would say Barry....because there are no more Gus cues being made and you would want to keep the cue safe and sound.

My advice would be to buy three cues at minimum, 2 Gus cues, one to hold and one to shoot with and 1 Barry to do both. Actually the best thing would be 2 Gus and 2 Barry cues......actually buy 3 of each and ........Actually I don't think I can really answer the question!

Hope that helps.

PS, that's a Barry in my avatar.


get a G-S-B ... that would solve all your issues :)
 
Well if you want one of the rarest barry cues made so far send me and email at kc7665@aol.com .i will send you pics and price of 1 of 6 ebony on ebony cues barry has made ..and as far as a Gus or Barry go ..buy as many as you can get you cant lose either way...thank you Ken Carfagno from Highendcues.com
 
Thanks for all of the responses. Good advice.

Let me clarify that I will be buying a "low-end" (if there is such a thing) Gus or Barry. I'm talking minimal, if no inlays.

Basically the only thing I want in the cue is:

4 points w/ veneers
Preferably ebony points/ebony butt
Good condition
Two straight shafts: 12.50 or above (preferably 13mm of course)
If I can find one within the price limit I've set for myself and it has inlays and meets the other criteria that is only a bonus.

I "will" play with whatever I buy. It might not be my everyday cue, but I'm not buying it to look at. It will still be a tool. Albeit an expensive tool, a tool nonetheless.

Why a Szamboti? I've just always wanted a Szamboti (who doesn't). They are my faves. I have hit balls with one before, but unfortunately when I had the opportunity my skill level wasn't such that I could truly appreciate it. Well, it's 10 years later and I truly know what I like in a cue.

The opportunity is arising that I can finally justify spending that kind of money on a cue. I've been playing a long time, and when I'm in stroke play well enough to justify having it....and well...it's been a rough 2007 for me with going through cancer, and having some close relatives pass away, so I'm looking at it as, "Darnit, I'm treating myself to something special and that I will keep a lifetime."

I really appreciate everyone's input and PM's. I'll post when I'm finally ready to "go ahead" with a deal - and see what some of our gracious AZ members have to offer.

Thanks again.
 
I'm there. Thanks....I can't wait.

DUC - that is a beautiful Szamboti you have. I'll post again in the March timeframe and see what people have to offer. I've really enjoyed this thread and appreciate the inputs.

All in all it seems - if it is a Szamboti, buy it. Right? :)
 
manwon said:
In my opinion if you are looking for collect-ability Barry's cues will never reach the level that his fathers have attained. Today there are too many
great cue makers to choose from, where a collector can put their money for future appreciation. While Barry certainly qualifies as a great Cue maker he is really no different than many other's. To name a few, Paul Mottey, Bill Schick, Pete Tascarella, Dennis Searing, Tad Kohara, Ernie G, and many many others.

i respectfully disagree with this thought, I believe that in 30 years from now Barrys cues will be as collectable as his dads, Barry dosent make as many cues and I personally believe he does stand head and shouders above the list of other cue makers for alot of reasons in this post, his cues play better(for me, sugartree is close), no CnC, he builds them with the same tools his father did, Barry built alot of the parts on the Gus cues, for his dad who put the pieces together and since Gus started the business they were Gus cues but some of the later cues were Gus cues made by father and son, becaue Barry worked with his dad.

Barry isnt a start-up cue maker he is perpetuating(To cause to continue indefinitely; make perpetual) his fathers legacy, nobody else is filling those shoes in the business right now. The list of cue makers you named build great cues no doubt about that but they dont have the legacy that Barrys cues do.


I have been lucky enough to have a GSB cue, I play with all my Szams some more than others, I only have one that that is a dud coincedentially it was the least expensive one I ever bought, and one other that is just ok, but thats judgeing them against other Szams(a high standard), and because of their age perhaps they changed over time as the wood aged. And thats 2 cues out od alot of Szams.

I dont buy them because of the investment perspective, but as it was stated before in this thread that if you buy them right or almost right you wont get hurt, I'll never get hurt cause I will never sell mine, I buy them for personal reasons and the respect I have for Barry and Gus, I heard about Gus when I was young and his ethics and charcter were told to me by a mutial friend, it made a strong impression on me as did his work, the first gus I played with is sadly in japan now and worth over $120,000 probably $150,000, Right then and there I had admiration for Gus, I never spoke to him, I couldnt afford a cue he made, moving foward 22 years I was in the position to afford a Gus, I got to know Barry a little-I was amazed everything I was told 22 years prior was 100% true. I was in awe the first time I spoke to Barry, I wanted to be a small part of that legacy so I have put together a small collection of the Szamboti's familys work and that to me cant be done with any other cue maker in the world.

Fatboy
 
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Get the Gus now and the Barry later. That would be the premium solution. However it's probably true that for the same Gus money, you'll get a fancier Barry. But there are no more Gus cues being built, so you have to weigh all the variables. I think what is most important is get to play with them, they don't all play the same, no cue really does. I have a Gus and use it often, I understand why my uncle could never "retire" it. Get one you like and enjoy it.

JV
 
One thing I NEED to correct Laurie Franklin, Mickey and Al are following ijn Jerrys foot steps as well at SouthWest cues, sorry I left them off.
 
Fatboy said:
One thing I NEED to correct Laurie Franklin, Mickey and Al are following ijn Jerrys foot steps as well at SouthWest cues, sorry I left them off.

there are a few

tasc-g.b.
herceck- spain
tad-martin

these are a few cuemakers with a little legacy behind them
 
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dave sutton said:
there are a few

tasc-g.b.
herceck- spain
tad-martin

these are a few cuemakers with a little legacy behind them

your right, i posted that with little thought and that was bad, real disrespectful, and sincerly appologise to anyone I may of offended or hurt. And I have done business with 2 or the 3 on that list, I love Tad cues I have alot from different time periods old to new. again i'm sorry.
 
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