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First Half Joint?

P.s. Dennis Searing Is The True Pioneer Of This Joint. There Are Several Others That Use It, But It Is Mr. Searing's Brain Child. There Is Also Alot More To It Than Just Using A Smaller Piece Of Steel For The Joint, But That's A Secret.[/QUOTE]

Thank you Marcus!
Rocky was the first to do the half joint look that I know of, I believe even before Benson. The Bensen's I've seen were not piloted in stainless, it was only a sleeve. Rocky's stainless is threaded deep into the forearm.
I believe I was the first to make the half joint the way I do it, and what I'm sure of is that I never seen anyone make the half joint the way I make it before I amde my first one in 1994. The idea for me was partly inspired by seeing a Tillis half joint cue, but not the method. The design, and how I make it was done to solve a few short falls that I felt a full stainless joint has for those who want a little more performance out of there cue. I personaly grew up playing with stainless joints, and like them, specially the look of a cue with one, so it was a motivating facter for me to create something like the half joint, and it's characteristics.
Nick is also correct, since there is less stainless in the half joint, it weighs less. Less mass = less deflection no matter how small that amount may be.
I hope my posting clears up who did what, and that there are huge differences in how each maker made there half looking joint.
Happy Holloween to all!
Dennis
 
searingcue said:
Thank you Marcus!
Rocky was the first to do the half joint look that I know of, I believe even before Benson. The Bensen's I've seen were not piloted in stainless, it was only a sleeve. Rocky's stainless is threaded deep into the forearm.
I believe I was the first to make the half joint the way I do it, and what I'm sure of is that I never seen anyone make the half joint the way I make it before I amde my first one in 1994. The idea for me was partly inspired by seeing a Tillis half joint cue, but not the method. The design, and how I make it was done to solve a few short falls that I felt a full stainless joint has for those who want a little more performance out of there cue. I personaly grew up playing with stainless joints, and like them, specially the look of a cue with one, so it was a motivating facter for me to create something like the half joint, and it's characteristics.
Nick is also correct, since there is less stainless in the half joint, it weighs less. Less mass = less deflection no matter how small that amount may be.
I hope my posting clears up who did what, and that there are huge differences in how each maker made there half looking joint.
Happy Holloween to all!
Dennis
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Thanks for the clarification, Dennis....yours certainly do hit sweet. A lot of people don't understand that while certain things might look the same on the outside, they can certainly be different on the inside. And for the record, yours and JWs are the only cues with uni-loc pins I have ever tried where I really liked the hit. You've got to know what you're doing to make that set-up hit good. "Hit" being subjective, of course. :) Best of luck and Happy Halloween.
 
searingcue said:
P.s. Dennis Searing Is The True Pioneer Of This Joint. There Are Several Others That Use It, But It Is Mr. Searing's Brain Child. There Is Also Alot More To It Than Just Using A Smaller Piece Of Steel For The Joint, But That's A Secret.
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Thank you Marcus!
Rocky was the first to do the half joint look that I know of, I believe even before Benson. The Bensen's I've seen were not piloted in stainless, it was only a sleeve. Rocky's stainless is threaded deep into the forearm.
I believe I was the first to make the half joint the way I do it, and what I'm sure of is that I never seen anyone make the half joint the way I make it before I amde my first one in 1994. The idea for me was partly inspired by seeing a Tillis half joint cue, but not the method. The design, and how I make it was done to solve a few short falls that I felt a full stainless joint has for those who want a little more performance out of there cue. I personaly grew up playing with stainless joints, and like them, specially the look of a cue with one, so it was a motivating facter for me to create something like the half joint, and it's characteristics.
Nick is also correct, since there is less stainless in the half joint, it weighs less. Less mass = less deflection no matter how small that amount may be.
I hope my posting clears up who did what, and that there are huge differences in how each maker made there half looking joint.
Happy Holloween to all!
Dennis[/QUOTE]

NO PROBLEM DENNIS, DOES THAT MEAN I GET MY NEXT HALF JOINTED CUE A LITTLE FASTER NOW? HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME SINCE WE'VE TALKED.
 
masonh said:
Dennis Searing did not pioneer the SS half joint it has been done for 30-40 years maybe longer.
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THEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND/KNOW WHAT DENNIS DOES. IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN JUST USING A SMALLER PIECE OF STEEL AT THE JOINT. TO BE HONEST, I DON'T CONSIDER THOSE HALF JOINT CUES. THE ONLY TRUE HALF JOINT CUES, IMO, ARE SEARINGS AND SOME OF -R-'S NEW CUES. THEY DO THEM BASICLY THE SAME WAY.
 
I have yet to see a seering or the other piloted half jointed cues. Your right benson are just sleeved. I gues u learn something new everyday.
 
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