Hard TLC please advise

devorator

devorator

Ipoolmyheart@thetable
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God thoughts and predictions made me delete this thread.
Thank you to those who took 2 minutes of their time to offer a solution.

All the best,
Chris
 
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Send it to Muellers or contact RATCUES on the forum, that would be your best option. He can easily duplicate the ringwork
 
Send it to Muellers or contact RATCUES on the forum, that would be your best option. He can easily duplicate the ringwork
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I thought about it too. Ryan did a some work on my cues in the past.
thank you sir.


@JoeyinCali - yes sir. Simple medium power shot (not break) with some right english...Incredible right...? :(
 
devorator said:
The core is off center, indeed. Hard to say as the butt split on the collar but looks like it is.
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That's not a core. That's a long, two-step tenon that is a continuous part of the handle wood and runs about halfway up into the forearm where a short, small-diameter bolt draws the two halves together.

TW
 
Thomas Wayne said:
That's not a core. That's a long, two-step tenon that is a continuous part of the handle wood and runs about halfway up into the forearm where a short, small-diameter bolt draws the two halves together.

TW
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I see. So what appears to be off center is actually the minor of a thread?
 
venison-slayer said:
It's off center look at the black ring. Same look as there ferrules. It's called mass production
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I agree, this is just an example of sloppy A joint construction concerning concentricity.

If this degree of joinery was done on a point cue, the point geometry would be off. On a PJ no one sees this unless something like this happens.

JMO,

Rick
 
is there a ring, at the a joint, that was off center, and split? Im clueless, but that's what it looks like to me.
 
devorator said:
Hi guys,
I have a nice old Mcdermott butt that just got broke in half (just above the wrap...) Simple medium power shoot and craaack!
I am stunned and I want her back...I love the hit of this old cues..
Now, I was thinking if I can make her longer adding a thicker fancy collar between these 2 parts (1'' maybe).
I am not necessary looking to spend a fortune on repair but I'd love to hear from you what can be done...

Any ideas, any takers?

Thank you guys.
Your help is always appreciated!

Chris
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I wasn't going to participate in this thread because of this: "Simple medium power shoot and craaack!"
I don't buy it and I'm not lending credence to this ridiculous claim. The cue was abused, period.
Why am I so confident that I can make that statement???
Because you can push a 3,000 lb car with the handle of a cue and as long as the load is always
straight-ahead (as a cue is designed and built to accommodate) the handle WILL survive.
Smack the table or put the cue to your knee and you're introducing lateral-loading.
That's when and why they break. They aren't designed to carry that type of load.
Send the cue to McDermott or to Ryan, I won't touch it.

What has now spurred my response is the number of observations from people who should know better,
insinuating that the tenon is off-center. It's an illusion and I'm amazed that you can't see it.
The tenon, for the most part, is in the center of the cue, both in the handle and the forearm.
What's not concentric is the fiber washers that are placed btwn the handle and forearm.
Their ID is larger than the tenon's OD and they have shifted during assembly.
It's not the tenon being off center, look closely.

Tenon dia & length vary by builder, there is no standard.
To boot, the tenon can go in either direction. It depends on the cue you're building.
Each must find the numbers they're comfortable with.

KJ
 
KJ Cues said:
I wasn't going to participate in this thread because of this: "Simple medium power shoot and craaack!"
I don't buy it and I'm not lending credence to this ridiculous claim. The cue was abused, period.
Why am I so confident that I can make that statement???
Because you can push a 3,000 lb car with the handle of a cue and as long as the load is always
straight-ahead (as a cue is designed and built to accommodate) the handle WILL survive.
Smack the table or put the cue to your knee and you're introducing lateral-loading.
That's when and why they break. They aren't designed to carry that type of load.
Send the cue to McDermott or to Ryan, I won't touch it.

What has now spurred my response is the number of observations from people who should know better,
insinuating that the tenon is off-center. It's an illusion and I'm amazed that you can't see it.
The tenon, for the most part, is in the center of the cue, both in the handle and the forearm.
What's not concentric is the fiber washers that are placed btwn the handle and forearm.
Their ID is larger than the tenon's OD and they have shifted during assembly.
It's not the tenon being off center, look closely.

Tenon dia & length vary by builder, there is no standard.
To boot, the tenon can go in either direction. It depends on the cue you're building.
Each must find the numbers they're comfortable with.

KJ
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Nobody asked you to do it sir!....

Thanks for input tho. I am pretty sure you know what your talking about. At least for the technical side of it....
Now if you want to offend me in anyway you can do it privately not on a public forum.
I stated what I did with it and assuming you are not God, please stop trying to explain me and others how was it.
I don't care what you think about it and I already explained my actions regarding this matter. It might seem odd to you but I am not a liar and I take full responsibility for my actions. It would've been nice to come with a solution instead of bashing me and my thread with your thoughts about something that happened with my cue you don't know sh*t about it.
I am a stand-up guy, I always was and always be. I could've easily come here and say I snapped the cue in half because. I lost a cash game and now I want it fixed. It would've been the same thing for you. I asked a professional opinion about how to fix it....not about what happened with the item or in what circumstances...

Anyway I loved the explanation about how strong butts are and how they can drag cars. Did you try with the safety brake on?....it might be a new test for cue makers...lol

Sorry guys for this post....but from time to time I just can't help myself. Consider this thread closed.
Thanks to those who really had something useful to say about this matter.

All the best,
Chris
 
Chris, I just don't see how a 3/4 diam. tenon would split like that with a force coming from a tip .
Any cue maker or repair person here who can chime in if he's seen a tenon break like that under normal use, please do so.
That looks like an aftermarket wrap. Did the cue show any signs of buzzing after the wrap was installed ?
 
KJ Cues said:
I wasn't going to participate in this thread because of this: "Simple medium power shoot and craaack!"
I don't buy it and I'm not lending credence to this ridiculous claim. The cue was abused, period.
Why am I so confident that I can make that statement???
Because you can push a 3,000 lb car with the handle of a cue and as long as the load is always
straight-ahead (as a cue is designed and built to accommodate) the handle WILL survive.
Smack the table or put the cue to your knee and you're introducing lateral-loading.
That's when and why they break. They aren't designed to carry that type of load.
Send the cue to McDermott or to Ryan, I won't touch it.

What has now spurred my response is the number of observations from people who should know better,
insinuating that the tenon is off-center. It's an illusion and I'm amazed that you can't see it.
The tenon, for the most part, is in the center of the cue, both in the handle and the forearm.
What's not concentric is the fiber washers that are placed btwn the handle and forearm.
Their ID is larger than the tenon's OD and they have shifted during assembly.
It's not the tenon being off center, look closely.

Tenon dia & length vary by builder, there is no standard.
To boot, the tenon can go in either direction. It depends on the cue you're building.
Each must find the numbers they're comfortable with.

KJ
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You are absolutely correct and I should have thought of that. Now I feel stupid for asking the question....:(
 
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