Hardness Durometer

BRKNRUN said:
I have been reading through all of the mechanics threads doing research...

Is a stint meter different from a stimp meter or was that a typo?

As a past club pro I have always referred to it as a "stimp" meter. Is the stint meter a different (but similar) tool?


For reference the stimp meter has a notch in the channel that the ball sits in...as you raise the meter end to a ceratin height gravity will pull the ball out of the notch an it will run down the channel. That means that everyone that uses the stimp meter will roll the ball from the same height on every green it is used on. Picking the elevation to roll the ball from is not an option as it will skew the reading consitency.

On a golf green you try and pick the flattest part of the green and must roll the ball from the same spot in 4 different directions and take an average of the distance rolled since greens are not level and the ball could be going downhill in one direction....if the ball rolls an average of 8 feet the green is rated an "8" on the stimp meter.

I usually picked at least two different areas since you could potentially pick a crown on the green in which the ball would roll slightly dowhill in all 4 directions....(On a pool table you "hopefully" would not have that issue)

For reference the greens on a professional event are up around 12-13

IF using this type of device on a pool table I would think it would be beneficial to test the cloth speed (and also) the effective rebound speed of the cushions..and perhaps even rolling rebound angle.

Obviously weather conditions will play a roll in the readings...(just as in golf)
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Hi Ken,
I use this item to check for cloth speed and the levelness of the table. I bought it from Billiards Express in Va.
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PoolTable911 said:
Hi Ken,
I use this item to check for cloth speed and the levelness of the table. I bought it from Billiards Express in Va
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How exactly do you check cloth speed with that?
 
Reminds me of the soapbox derby days when I was a kid in boyscouts.......
25 years later a smaller version shows up for pooltables.
Guess history does repeat itself.

PoolTable911 said:
Hi Ken,
I use this item to check for cloth speed and the levelness of the table. I bought it from Billiards Express in Va.
Rampgauge2.jpg
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That ramp guage is a great tool. I absolutely hate it when i have customers, usually novices trying to check my level by throwing or
hitting a ball! They"ll hit 10 shots in ten different directions!

Back in the eightys at the brunswick seminar we received a metal
ball ramp with a blue circle cue ball in a nice oak box as a gift.
 
Dartman said:
How exactly do you check cloth speed with that?
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Rick,
I am not sure if this is sarcasm or not. If the ball is at the top of the ramp and released you can you can easily see how far the ball rolls. Because the ramp is at a fixed height it will roll off the ramp at the same speed. Now humidity and dirt can be a factor, but I have no control over this. :confused:
TL-116 RAMP, BALL, RAIL TEST & SPEED INDICATOR, 8 TESTS (Wood)------------------------------$--1--9--.9--5----Each
 
PoolTable911 said:
Rick,
I am not sure if this is sarcasm or not. If the ball is at the top of the ramp and released you can you can easily see how far the ball rolls. Because the ramp is at a fixed height it will roll off the ramp at the same speed. Now humidity and dirt can be a factor, but I have no control over this. :confused:
TL-116 RAMP, BALL, RAIL TEST & SPEED INDICATOR, 8 TESTS (Wood)------------------------------$--1--9--.9--5----Each
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Me sarcastic??? LOL :D

To be a true gauge of "cloth speed" as you mentioned. using the tool one would need stats for the relative amount of ball roll distance based on table size and different styles of cloth. In other words, the ball will roll further off a 1 1/2" ramp on Simonis then it will on Titan. Charting this parameter is a good way to assign (or check) a "speed rating" on different cloths.

My previous comment was about cloth speed.
Not questioning the fact that rolling a ball off a fixed height will produce consistent ball roll.
 
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