One piece... all original...odd venner colors.
Natural, brown, natural,red. First one I have encounterd
Natural, brown, natural,red. First one I have encounterd
Has anyone seen a titlist like this?
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Pics.........
Pics........
Pic again.....
The colors definitely aren't faded. It is a candy red and 2 naturals for sure.
(I say this from an up close inspection)
(I say this from an up close inspection)
There is no paint on this cue. It is an original dyed red venner....
Ideologist.....who posted above was previously the owner. He can
attest to the fact that it has not been altered in anyway.
He is a very reputable guy and knowledgeable on cues.
attest to the fact that it has not been altered in anyway.
He is a very reputable guy and knowledgeable on cues.
Anyone who thinks this is a sharpie job, bet $50 with me on it. It will be getting a clean up with fine sandpaper and can be seen in person at SBE to my understanding.
If it is, I deserve to lose a few healthy bets. My eyes will never be trusted again.
If it is, I deserve to lose a few healthy bets. My eyes will never be trusted again.
Not doubting you, just wondering about the purple - looks like the red is worn off.
Here is a pic of the same point on the cue after a light cleaning. It's is a dark spot that looks purple in first photo
Close up pic of area
This cue is definitely unique and is a mystery to me too, but I believe it is original. It's a vintage WWII Titlist.
After a more detailed photo exchange with the owner, I believe the cue came this way. The earlier Titlists used real purpleheart on the outer veneer, but the green veneer was dyed.
At first I thought that it may be that the cue was exposed to sunlight for a long time. UV and heat can change purpleheart's color to the point it is unrecognizable and fade the old water based green dyes right out.
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/purpleheart.htm
I once had a cuemaker (Jerry R.) send me a piece of old cue wood to see if I might recognize it. After messing around with sandings and so forth we figured out it was purpleheart, problem was it was 100 years old, severely oxidized, and virtually unregognizable, even by Jerry!
But this cue is so vivid, and after looking at close-ups, I just don't see how it could be anything other than the red veneer we see. Even if you look at the close-ups, you can see a slight border on the red where a brown filler was used, a common practice at the factory to fill small gaps in the sections. (They had to use the darker brown filler because a lighter filler would discolor the point wood and veneers). The darker filler is also visible in he maple pigment.
There is just no way a veneer could be colored, dyed or painted after the fact to be this exact on wood.
The unusual weight stamp signified that it was sold as part of a group of cues to a pool room or bowling alley. Often these cues are seen as sets.
I am coming to the conclusion that this cue was part of a special order from a pool room or bowling alley. They must have been pretty large to get a custom job, but I believe it is the first custom Titlist I have seen.
After a more detailed photo exchange with the owner, I believe the cue came this way. The earlier Titlists used real purpleheart on the outer veneer, but the green veneer was dyed.
At first I thought that it may be that the cue was exposed to sunlight for a long time. UV and heat can change purpleheart's color to the point it is unrecognizable and fade the old water based green dyes right out.
http://www.hobbithouseinc.com/personal/woodpics/purpleheart.htm
I once had a cuemaker (Jerry R.) send me a piece of old cue wood to see if I might recognize it. After messing around with sandings and so forth we figured out it was purpleheart, problem was it was 100 years old, severely oxidized, and virtually unregognizable, even by Jerry!
But this cue is so vivid, and after looking at close-ups, I just don't see how it could be anything other than the red veneer we see. Even if you look at the close-ups, you can see a slight border on the red where a brown filler was used, a common practice at the factory to fill small gaps in the sections. (They had to use the darker brown filler because a lighter filler would discolor the point wood and veneers). The darker filler is also visible in he maple pigment.
There is just no way a veneer could be colored, dyed or painted after the fact to be this exact on wood.
The unusual weight stamp signified that it was sold as part of a group of cues to a pool room or bowling alley. Often these cues are seen as sets.
I am coming to the conclusion that this cue was part of a special order from a pool room or bowling alley. They must have been pretty large to get a custom job, but I believe it is the first custom Titlist I have seen.
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