Has anyone tried out any of the fake cheap copycat cues from China?

justinb386 said:
I recently checked out this NV (Nick Varner) cue at a pawn shop (priced at $45), and it felt like it weighed about 12oz. It was the lightest pool cue I ever held in my hand. It had a really nice looking layered tip on it (looked like a good quality tip, like maybe a Kamui). I offered the pawn shop $20 for it, but they refused. They were firm on $45. It was a really junkie looking cue, and it felt like junk too. I was really wanting something (anything) to shoot with though (thinking that maybe I could find a weight bolt to put in it, and it might hit decent), and thought it was worth maybe $20, but no more then that.
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If it was junkie and felt junkie, why the hell would you want it at any price?

If it's a piece of shit, I don't care what you paid for it, you still bought a piece of shit. Complete waste of 20 dollars.

You should take that 20 dollars and buy a thank you note and some flowers. Have it sent to the pawn shop thanking them for not lowering the price of the cue and saving you from buying yet another crap cue.

That would be a better use of the money.
 
Justin,

Just last week off of eBay I bought a Green Box Mali M-1 for $50.
Tiger Maple with a Black Wrap.
It was a "But it now".

Two weeks ago on Fleabay "Buy it now"......
Vintage Oval "N" Series (no USA) Viking with points $75 w/free shipping.

You need to look harder.
 
$700 is not a lot of money to spend on anything you will truely enjoy owning, use often and keep indefinitely. especially when you consider the extemely low cost to maintain it.

Do what everybody else does, save for it. The pride of ownership will be that much sweeter when you have sacrificed here and there over time.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Name one company that wants to make products at a higher cost and get less profits. Sure, some smaller places that may make things in the US. A shop in the Catskill mountains near a hotel I go to every year sells US made shirts. They are about 3 times the cost of what a shirt costs in Target or Khols for good quality shirts. How many do you think they sell and how much do you think the company that makes them is worth? Cars are probably the last major thing that is made in the US and look what happened to that, the industry nearly collapsed.
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If relocating to China would be so profitable for any cue company, then why do all of the production cue companies not move to China, and have some factory over there help build their cues? At the prices that Predator charges for their cues, why would they need the help of Chinese workers to build their cues? OB cues for example are similar in price, right(?), and they are still made here in the US. I have a question, if anyone here might know. How many cues does Predator make per year, and how many cues do similar cue companies who they compete with (like OB, Tiger, Mezz, and any others that I might be missing) make per year? Predator is the only cue company who decided to relocate to China, and none of the others have done that (correct me if I am wrong?). Why relocate to a country that is so famous for ripping off other products? Could Predator have not just remained in Canada (or was it Florida?), and still turned a good profit? Or maybe the cue makers in China make an even better product then anything that was ever made in Canada or Florida (back when Predator was here in North America)? I am really interested to know if Predator builds more cues (more of each of their models) then any of their competition (in around the same price range)? If they do, and are unable to sell a lot of their stock, then do they have overstock problems? Are they a much larger company then OB or Tiger for example? I just wonder how many Predator cues (with $700 or more retail tags) are sitting in dealer cases, or warehouses, waiting to be sold, or if their demand is really so big, that they are able to sell everything that they make pretty fast. I guess that these are questions that only the company itself would be able to answer. I assume that most cue companies who make cues that start out in the $700 price range (or even just $500 or more) would only make a small amount of cues, and never keep too much stock at a time (that have not been sold to dealers), but I do not know about these cue makers from China. Could they possibly have a very large amount of overstock, and not want to devalue their cues, by offering them at a much cheaper price? $700 for a plain jane production cue just seems crazy I think, even if it does come with a high tech $300 shaft.
 
Justin isn't going to quit until he finds a killer cue for $10.
And that all of his questions are answered to his satisfaction.

And he'd still flip the $10 cue.
 
Why do you assume any company astute enough to relocate to maximize their profit would be so ignorant as to produce a surplus?
 
justinb386 said:
I just want to find one cue that I will really love, that is cheap enough, and worthless enough, that I will be able to hold on to it forever.
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forever................................................until you sell it..................................again.
 
justinb386 said:
If relocating to China would be so profitable for any cue company, then why do all of the production cue companies not move to China, and have some factory over there help build their cues? At the prices that Predator charges for their cues, why would they need the help of Chinese workers to build their cues? OB cues for example are similar in price, right(?), and they are still made here in the US. I have a question, if anyone here might know. How many cues does Predator make per year, and how many cues do similar cue companies who they compete with (like OB, Tiger, Mezz, and any others that I might be missing) make per year? Predator is the only cue company who decided to relocate to China, and none of the others have done that (correct me if I am wrong?). Why relocate to a country that is so famous for ripping off other products? Could Predator have not just remained in Canada (or was it Florida?), and still turned a good profit? Or maybe the cue makers in China make an even better product then anything that was ever made in Canada or Florida (back when Predator was here in North America)? I am really interested to know if Predator builds more cues (more of each of their models) then any of their competition (in around the same price range)? If they do, and are unable to sell a lot of their stock, then do they have overstock problems? Are they a much larger company then OB or Tiger for example? I just wonder how many Predator cues (with $700 or more retail tags) are sitting in dealer cases, or warehouses, waiting to be sold, or if their demand is really so big, that they are able to sell everything that they make pretty fast. I guess that these are questions that only the company itself would be able to answer. I assume that most cue companies who make cues that start out in the $700 price range (or even just $500 or more) would only make a small amount of cues, and never keep too much stock at a time (that have not been sold to dealers), but I do not know about these cue makers from China. Could they possibly have a very large amount of overstock, and not want to devalue their cues, by offering them at a much cheaper price? $700 for a plain jane production cue just seems crazy I think, even if it does come with a high tech $300 shaft.
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I can tell you that there are no quality auto related parts coming from China. Manufacturers do not move their production to China because they are getting higher quality for less cost. In fact the production costs are so much cheaper that it is more profitable for a company to move their production from the US to China then have the finished products shipped back halfway around the world to sell. For all of those dollars saved you certainly dont get higher quality or even equal quality, you instead end up with inferior quality but its cheap so it sells. In fact most of todays consumers rarely look at quality or after sales service, they base the majority of their buying decisions on price alone. I think a lot of people dont even know how a quality product compares to the import products they buy because they have never seen the quality product.
 
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