Having trouble beating my "student" now (8-ball)!

Billy_Bob

Billy_Bob

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The other day I played a friend I have been giving tips to and could not beat him (8-ball)!

He seems to have learned how to wreck my runouts. He is getting to be quite good at leaving me without a shot and messing up my balls (creating clusters or tying them up). He is now able to shoot one of his balls into mine so it ties up my balls, yet leaves his ball in the clear.

He's very smart - chess player type - he is outsmarting me.

And he keeps doing this until he gets a shot or ball-in-hand and can then run out himself.

So now I guess I need to get lessons from *him* on how to win! I wonder if he will share?
 
Start to "teach" him what he is doing "wrong". Even make things up or lie to him.

I read that somewhere:D

I think it should be a goal of any teacher that their pupil is able to exceed their teachers abilities. It means you did a great job mentoring him, and that he actually may have listened.

Kudos!
 
Read the Sharking thread.. LOL Probably a couple things in there that might help ya.. :D

DJ
 
yeppers sound like you are a good teacher and gave some gooder tips, the person that taught me how to play can't beat me now too while he can but its not like how it use to be.
 
Yes, people I have taught things to use them against me to beat me. But IMO, it's all good for the sport and it fires you both up to go to the next level. It is also gratifying that they actually applied it in a situation and remembered what you told them.

Oftentimes after a match, I will tell friends of mine of a safety they didn't recognize, or a 2-way shot, etc. I always ask first and it's after they have cooled down a bit. I have never had anyone complain about learning something new to help their game.
 
How does he stack up against other players? I find often if you match up against the same person you'll eventually find out how to beat them, but play someone else and you cant seem to get a break....

If he is just getting into your game and knows how to mess you up its one thing and you can change your strategy...
 
quote from "the baltimore bullet"

I may have taught you everything you know, but I didn't teach you everything I know..........

I guess there's a selfish lesson there if you want it.

:D :D
 
MacGyver said:
How does he stack up against other players? I find often if you match up against the same person you'll eventually find out how to beat them, but play someone else and you cant seem to get a break....

If he is just getting into your game and knows how to mess you up its one thing and you can change your strategy...
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He is getting into the money sometimes in easy local tournaments. Also doing well against other bar players, can now hold the table for quite awhile. Basically improving at a steady clip. He learns quickly. You only need to tell him something once.

I saw him today and mentioned I might need to take lessons from him because he is doing so well. He smiled with a big grin.

Then he said he was worried I was mad because he beat me so many times the other night. I told him that I was not mad, but glad! Also that getting him to the point where he could beat me was my goal with him in the first place.

I *want* to play players who will beat me often as it will make me a better player too.

So far as my winning against him in the future, I have had my defensive game pretty much turned off while playing him in the past, but I'll turn that up a bit. I have had one good safety battle with him and he thrived on it, so I'm looking forward to some excellent safety battles in the future.

So far as him learning more in the future, I will help him all he wants and share all the materials I have if he asks. And these materials are from pro players - books, videos, drills, etc. For now he seems to not be asking to learn anything new, although he knows how much there is to learn. I think he is absorbing what he has learned so far and needs time before going on to anything else.
 
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