HEAVIER weight bolts

bruin70

bruin70

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are there weight bolts that are made of a weightier material than your standard weight bolt?

i would like to add weight to my cue. at its default weight, the balance point is 19.5>". it is too forward balanced and feels heavier than it should. i have a limited amount of space for additional weight.

the only option i can think of is a denser than standard weight bolt.

thanks
 
bruin70 said:
are there weight bolts that are made of a weightier material than your standard weight bolt?

i would like to add weight to my cue. at its default weight, the balance point is 19.5>". it is too forward balanced and feels heavier than it should. i have a limited amount of space for additional weight.

the only option i can think of is a denser than standard weight bolt.

thanks
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I tried to cast a lead 1/2"-13 'bolt' for my McDermott one time, but the threads were poor. I ended up using the longest piece of 1/2-13 rod that would fit. If I were to add more weight I might consider drilling a hole in that bolt and fill it in with lead or perhaps epoxy in a piece of tungsten rod (from a welding supply store).

Dave, an amateur metalworker but not a cuemaker
 
DaveK said:
I tried to cast a lead 1/2"-13 'bolt' for my McDermott one time, but the threads were poor. I ended up using the longest piece of 1/2-13 rod that would fit. If I were to add more weight I might consider drilling a hole in that bolt and fill it in with lead or perhaps epoxy in a piece of tungsten rod (from a welding supply store).

Dave, an amateur metalworker but not a cuemaker
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You can always redrill and tap to a 5/8ths. thread and insert that size stud.
Dick
 
rhncue said:
You can always redrill and tap to a 5/8ths. thread and insert that size stud.
Dick
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that's what i was thinking i had to do.

the longer bolt that i was given is about 1" too long. it's just the right weight and balances the cue well, but with it, i cannot screw the bumper back on.
 
bruin70 said:
that's what i was thinking i had to do.

the longer bolt that i was given is about 1" too long. it's just the right weight and balances the cue well, but with it, i cannot screw the bumper back on.
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Why not just take your weight bolt out, drill a .250" hole in there and drop some powdered tungsten mixed with glue?
Put back the original weight bolt back.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Why not just take your weight bolt out, drill a .250" hole in there and drop some powdered tungsten mixed with glue?
Put back the original weight bolt back.
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,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,because i don't have the equipment to do it??? :)
 
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another possible solution....

if there were a way to cosmetically cover up the protruding larger weight bolt. it doesn't stick out past the bottom of the cue, but it does prevent me from screwing in the rubber bumper. my cue comes with that screw-in bumper with the rubber threading that is actually an extension of the rubber bumper.

how about this solution,,,,,,,,find a way to rubber cement a cored out rubber bumper, or cut off the rubber thread and thread the bumper itself. is this do-able?

i see this as an alternative because i am actually very satisfied with the position of the weight bolt even though it sticks out, and drilling deeper into the butt would shift the weight another 1.25" into the cue, which i care not to have..

also,,,,joey,,,WHERE DO I GET THIS POWDER? how much heavier is it than the standard bolt(%-wise)? i was thinking of simply filling the space with loose powder and letting the rubber bumper keep it in. even if there was loose powder and not perfectly sealed, i don't think i'd notice the loose powder shifting back and forth inside cue,,,,loose powder is not like a loose bolt.
 
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bruin70 said:
also,,,,joey,,,WHERE DO I GET THIS POWDER? how much heavier is it than the standard bolt(%-wise)? i was thinking of simply filling the space with loose powder and letting the rubber bumper keep it in. even if there was loose powder and not perfectly sealed, i don't think i'd notice the loose powder shifting back and forth inside cue,,,,loose powder is not like a loose bolt.
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bruin, all you need is an electric hand drill and a 1/4" drill bit. This should be fairly easy to find, or find someone to drill it for you. I suggested using a tungsten rod rather than powder because they are much easier to find. Tungsten rods are used in TIG welding, and any welding supply outfit should have them and sell you 1.

steel is about 7.8 g/cc
tungsten is about 18.8 g/cc

a 1/4" hole in a 1.5" weight bolt is about 2.5cc

so drilling out the steel would reduce the weight by about 19 gm
filling it in with tungsten would add anout 47 gm

the difference is about 28 gm, or 1 oz.

Dave
 
bruin70 said:
that's what i was thinking i had to do.

the longer bolt that i was given is about 1" too long. it's just the right weight and balances the cue well, but with it, i cannot screw the bumper back on.
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You can get tungsten powder on golf supply sites. Go to www.golfsmith.com and see if you can find it there. The stuff REALLY is heavy and we use it on clubs. You don't even have to glue it in because it doesn't rattle or make noise. You could just put your bumper back in and it'll all hold and not fall out. That way you could still have the option of adding or removing at any time. What cue is it? Who makes it? And what is the weight/length of the bolt?
 
drivermaker said:
You can get tungsten powder on golf supply sites. Go to www.golfsmith.com and see if you can find it there. The stuff REALLY is heavy and we use it on clubs. You don't even have to glue it in because it doesn't rattle or make noise. You could just put your bumper back in and it'll all hold and not fall out. That way you could still have the option of adding or removing at any time. What cue is it? Who makes it? And what is the weight/length of the bolt?
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thanks, DM, daveK

so tungsten is about 2x the weifht of steel
 
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butterflycues said:
what size weight bolt is in it now. If it is 3/8 you can go to half inch. butterflycues
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it's a standard weight bolt....like 3/8 something,maybe 14.

but i think a solution is on the way. thanks all, and i learned about titanium powder,,,,,cool.
 
bruin70 said:
it's a standard weight bolt....like 3/8 something,maybe 14.

but i think a solution is on the way. thanks all, and i learned about titanium powder,,,,,cool.
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Yeh, but titanium weighs less than aluminum.
Dick
 
bruin70 said:
it's a standard weight bolt....like 3/8 something,maybe 14.

but i think a solution is on the way. thanks all, and i learned about titanium powder,,,,,cool.
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Bruin,

If it is a standard weight bolt, it SHOULD be 3/8-16.
I could be wrong, some people like to use odd balls just for kicks :D



Jon
 
Jon said:
Bruin,

If it is a standard weight bolt, it SHOULD be 3/8-16.
I could be wrong, some people like to use odd balls just for kicks :D



Jon
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Not meaning to be disrespectful, but the few I've seen were 1/2-13. Of course I do not stare up butts very often :D Are most 3/8-16 ?

Dave
 
Jon said:
Bruin,

If it is a standard weight bolt, it SHOULD be 3/8-16.
I could be wrong, some people like to use odd balls just for kicks :D



Jon
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you're right. i just counted.
 
DaveK said:
Not meaning to be disrespectful, but the few I've seen were 1/2-13. Of course I do not stare up butts very often :D Are most 3/8-16 ?

Dave
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If you check around most cue supply places, that is what they are selling now (3/8-16), but i believe that Pechauer uses 1/2-13, and i think Joss might use it as well.
I worked on an older two point Meucci that had a 5/8" bolt :eek:

Jon
 
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