I have a table like this, a Rozel Gold Cup, my Dad bought it new in Chicago in 1965 for ~$1500. I have searched the internet and found very little info on it but I found you guys. Nice community here, lots of knowledge.
What is really odd is on the end of mine it also has TOP written upside-down. I see no holes in the bottom where the slate was ever mounted, so my guess is either TOP was written on them wrong at the factory, or it has been wrong ever since it was new. I don’t think the ball return would work if the top was on wrong, as there are notches for it near the ball box.
I live in Southern AZ, my dad brought it out a couple years ago, it was in a barn in AR for 30 years. He and I did a half arsed job of setting it up about two years ago, but it did play okay. I am now in the process of moving it and found this forum, lots of great info. It is apart now and I am in the process of restoring it. I need to clean up and paint the rusty steel (damn Arkansas Humidity) that is part of the ball return, buy some new hardware, and clean things up. This weekend a local pool table guy ( Brian from On Cue Pool Tables, Sierra Vista, AZ )is coming over to level it, do the slate seams, and put new felt on it. I am a good mechanic, but the car type, not the pool table type. I would prefer to do it all myself but he is supposed to be good. I am not used to having other people work on my stuff, so I am a little nervous.
I will post a couple pics of it if anyone is interested. I have seen a couple of these for sale back east. Anyone here know anything about Rozel tabels, history or quality? It seems built pretty well.
Thanks
Rob
What is really odd is on the end of mine it also has TOP written upside-down. I see no holes in the bottom where the slate was ever mounted, so my guess is either TOP was written on them wrong at the factory, or it has been wrong ever since it was new. I don’t think the ball return would work if the top was on wrong, as there are notches for it near the ball box.
I live in Southern AZ, my dad brought it out a couple years ago, it was in a barn in AR for 30 years. He and I did a half arsed job of setting it up about two years ago, but it did play okay. I am now in the process of moving it and found this forum, lots of great info. It is apart now and I am in the process of restoring it. I need to clean up and paint the rusty steel (damn Arkansas Humidity) that is part of the ball return, buy some new hardware, and clean things up. This weekend a local pool table guy ( Brian from On Cue Pool Tables, Sierra Vista, AZ )is coming over to level it, do the slate seams, and put new felt on it. I am a good mechanic, but the car type, not the pool table type. I would prefer to do it all myself but he is supposed to be good. I am not used to having other people work on my stuff, so I am a little nervous.
I will post a couple pics of it if anyone is interested. I have seen a couple of these for sale back east. Anyone here know anything about Rozel tabels, history or quality? It seems built pretty well.
Thanks
Rob
Hell Week table 3 -
Ok, this one was actually kind of fun once we figured it out.
It is an old Rozel Gold Cup made in Chicago. I had never seen or heard of one. Looked at it, crawled around under it, scratched our heads, and called Glen to see if he had heard of it. Tough to describe over the phone, but from my explanation, he had never heard of it. The smart*ss's response I believe was "well that's what makes a good mechanic...you'll figure it out." I honestly think I could hear the smirk through the phone. LOL So now that I had been challenged, I was determined to figure out how this table came apart.
Here's how it looked from underneath:
L Shaped brackets were attached to the bottom of the ball return. There were bolts out through the side of the return, but the vertical bolts were in the way of pulling them out. It took some serious looking but we realized the rails came off different that any table we had ever seen:
The whole rail, return, blind, brackets and all came off in one big sturdy bulky piece. Pretty cool how it all went together.
You can see here how the end goes on and it just gets a washer and nut on the back on the inside of the frame:
Thought this was funny when I was looking up from underneath to take the nuts off:
The slate had inserts all the way around the side like T-rail style, but smaller for this border to bolt into it from the side. Cloth was stapled on this slate edge.
Once we figured out how it came apart, it was EASY to get it back together. Only one way to do it, so if it was together at all, it was together right. LOL
This one was actually a really fun table to work on. I'll tell you one thing though, I'm glad we didn't have to recover it!!!!
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