HELP - dealing with SLOW SHOOTER
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I know your opponent
. Here is just one more chicken shit move for retaliation. It won’t solve the problem but it gives you one more bullet. (and really feels good when it works)
When the time is right from the sense that he is getting into a zone, he makes a difficult shot and is faced with another. At that moment ask him why he played the shot or pattern the way he did in your most sincere voice.
He will be glad to share his wisdom with you and then drive the next ball into the rail.
. Here is just one more chicken shit move for retaliation. It won’t solve the problem but it gives you one more bullet. (and really feels good when it works)When the time is right from the sense that he is getting into a zone, he makes a difficult shot and is faced with another. At that moment ask him why he played the shot or pattern the way he did in your most sincere voice.
He will be glad to share his wisdom with you and then drive the next ball into the rail.
tell him u got stomach ache n jus pack up n leave..LOL
u leave so fast that he has to pay for the tbl time too
u leave so fast that he has to pay for the tbl time too
when i'm in a tourney, or gambling, i look at it as if i went to WAR.
it's a battle.
lose, and the money's gone, or your out of the tourney.
get yourself prepared mentally.
sometimes i like it when people try to shark me. it shows they are scared, and need some kind of big edge to beat you.
if you slow down yourself, you get out of YOUR gameplan, and you lose confidence in yourself. and what are you thinking about the whole time when your playing slow?........HIM, not yourself and the job you have at hand.
don't let it bother you.
make it work to your advantage mentally.
it works for me.
my 2 cents.
chris G
it's a battle.
lose, and the money's gone, or your out of the tourney.
get yourself prepared mentally.
sometimes i like it when people try to shark me. it shows they are scared, and need some kind of big edge to beat you.
if you slow down yourself, you get out of YOUR gameplan, and you lose confidence in yourself. and what are you thinking about the whole time when your playing slow?........HIM, not yourself and the job you have at hand.
don't let it bother you.
make it work to your advantage mentally.
it works for me.
my 2 cents.
chris G
The only thing I can tell you is, don't play 'em for nothing. Also, take it as a challenge to keep your focus and rythm. What I do when a player shoots slower than me in a tournament (I'm what you would call deliberate), I close my eyes until it's my time to shoot. Works for me, and it just might psych 'em out.
9BallBust-O said:Just looking for some advice or words of wisdom.
I play with this dude from time to time that will take like 7-8 min to run from say.... 5 - 9 ball. He will look at table FOREVER then get down on stance, stroke like 15 times, then stand back up and look again, get down on shot, practice stroke like 15 more times, then change from shooting top to botom english, then practice stroke for like 15 more times and finally shoot - and this could be with ball in hand. I seriously feel myself gettin ticked inside and frustrated by the time I am ready to shoot. Then when I shoot he always out loud questions what I am doing or ask why did I make that shot, but in a " WTF are you doing" kind of way.** Even though I usually beat him.** I dont play for money with him but I am just wondering if I were in a tournament with a player like this or playing for $$ , HOW do you mentally deal with this and what do you do sitting there for like 15 min??
slow players i enjoy to play against them IF they are playing really well makes me want to slow my game down and try just as hard but IF they take forever just to miss then it bothers me other then that they kewl in my book just me though. But i know a few players at the youth center here that play really slow and people give them a hard time as in like, Come on hurry up and shoot, how slow can someone be just joking around like that makes them hurry up and also throw off their game which can be hustling i think but they are kewl with it and don't get mad.
TheConArtist said:
That "come on, hurry up" stuff doesn't always work.
Last time it happened to me, while I was down on the shot, this guy said it to me, obviously sharking me. What's the best way to react to that? Well, it depends. If you know you're going to pot the ball, just stroke it and make it. Especially if it's the money ball
Then get up and ask, "Did someboday say something?" On the other hand, if it's a high pressure shot, why not take advantage of the sharking to give the guy a dose of his own medicine? While down on the shot, slowly rotate your head and look him straight in the eye. And then stand up slowly, stroking in the air. And start your whole preshot routine again. Get really comfortable, go into your stance, take your time, and fire the ball into the center of the pocket. Repeat until you win.
Flex
Flex said:That "come on, hurry up" stuff doesn't always work.
Last time it happened to me, while I was down on the shot, this guy said it to me, obviously sharking me. What's the best way to react to that? Well, it depends. If you know you're going to pot the ball, just stroke it and make it. Especially if it's the money ball
On the other hand, if it's a high pressure shot, why not take advantage of the sharking to give the guy a dose of his own medicine? While down on the shot, slowly rotate your head and look him straight in the eye. And then stand up slowly, stroking in the air. And start your whole preshot routine again. Get really comfortable, go into your stance, take your time, and fire the ball into the center of the pocket. Repeat until you win.
Flex
Good story Flex, i know it always doesn't work cause sometimes i am the person they say this too LOL, but for me i can block out things like this cause i always played in my own pressure matches for me and my opps. would always do something to try and distract me, for an example waving there hands, bending down in your line of the shot on the opposite side of the table etc... and my favorite even taking longer to shoot just to ignore them more LOL, an dlike i said i love to play slow players and take as long as you want if there ain't no time clock on you but drill the shots not miss'em
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Slow Play
Change your shaft a few times when it is your turn at the table. Be sure your extra shafts do not have tips on them. It takes 10 minutes for a good tip to set with Tweeten's glue. Read a news paper and ask your opponent what a good price per acre is in a nearby town. Shape each tip carefully with many comparisons with both a nickle and a dime. Trim the sides with a razor blade to ensure the tips are very flush. Ruff the new tip with a half dozen different implements that every shooter needs. Just before the last time, pick up a house cue and drill a straight in shot. Do a victory dance around the table while raising the roof. Rinse and repeat.
Change your shaft a few times when it is your turn at the table. Be sure your extra shafts do not have tips on them. It takes 10 minutes for a good tip to set with Tweeten's glue. Read a news paper and ask your opponent what a good price per acre is in a nearby town. Shape each tip carefully with many comparisons with both a nickle and a dime. Trim the sides with a razor blade to ensure the tips are very flush. Ruff the new tip with a half dozen different implements that every shooter needs. Just before the last time, pick up a house cue and drill a straight in shot. Do a victory dance around the table while raising the roof. Rinse and repeat.
This worked
TheBook said:
What difference to YOUR game does HIS slow play make? I mean really. When I am at the table, I choose MY rhythm for MY best advantage. What he does is what he does. So what?
I developed this particular-instance attitude when playing in my first state tourney 15 or so years ago. I beat the guy who took well over 4 minutes per shot, just by remembering when it was my turn, it was MY turn, not his. He was sitting; I was shooting. His rhythm no longer mattered.
Easier said than done---wait!---that's someone else's attitude---I'll reject that and say: It's a piece of pie...easy as cake!
Jeff Livingston
I developed this particular-instance attitude when playing in my first state tourney 15 or so years ago. I beat the guy who took well over 4 minutes per shot, just by remembering when it was my turn, it was MY turn, not his. He was sitting; I was shooting. His rhythm no longer mattered.
Easier said than done---wait!---that's someone else's attitude---I'll reject that and say: It's a piece of pie...easy as cake!
Jeff Livingston
JamisonNeu said:
Sounds like a great idea! I would also incorporate a line like ...
"When you are ready, just let me know what you are going to do before you shoot". Then I'd turn around again and talk to some people between his shots. Hopefully he will get the idea that he's playing way too slow.
Not me ...
I get real *****y and facetious:
1) I have a dentist appointment tomorrow morning and I don't want to be late.
2) I think your 9 ball patterns need work ... lol
3) I thought everyone's brain operated at the same speed, but your living proof that they don't.
4) Your stall isn't working, you can go ahead and shoot.
5) I have tried a few times, but I CAN NOT out slow play a slow player.
I usually get up and run a table or 2 in about 30-40 seconds, look at my opponent, and say 'Now that wasn't so hard, was it?'.
6) Sometimes I just tell them I will put them on the clock if they persist
in slow playing.
If it is a money player, and they irritate the shit out of me with slow play, I refuse to play them any more money ball.
I get real *****y and facetious:
1) I have a dentist appointment tomorrow morning and I don't want to be late.
2) I think your 9 ball patterns need work ... lol
3) I thought everyone's brain operated at the same speed, but your living proof that they don't.
4) Your stall isn't working, you can go ahead and shoot.
5) I have tried a few times, but I CAN NOT out slow play a slow player.
I usually get up and run a table or 2 in about 30-40 seconds, look at my opponent, and say 'Now that wasn't so hard, was it?'.
6) Sometimes I just tell them I will put them on the clock if they persist
in slow playing.
If it is a money player, and they irritate the shit out of me with slow play, I refuse to play them any more money ball.
First off - thanks everyone for all the ideas. I posted on Friday so I didnt get to try a lot of them out because I didnt get back online till today. I will be printing out a lot of these suggestions for future use. SO many great ideas for every situation. BUT I will tell you some of the story that happened this past Saturday evening. It started out so slow, who would of thought, do I decided to give it right back, picking at the cloth, walking around the table like 5 times. lock and load - lock and re load. PLUS I brought my smart mouth with me and that usually can rattle some nerves. I purposely left him long crappy shots just to get his frustration going- even if I could make a ball I would go safe, a few 3 fouls when I could of ran. He then chimes in with a scarastic voice and tells me that IF I WORKED ON MY PATTERN PLAY I HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE AN OK PLAYER. I said: OK THEN why dont you just break and tell me your pattern play before you make your first shot. **With a good Earl Strickland face I said :You tell me your patterns and Ill SHOW you mine. He breaks and stands about 4 feet back away from the table and kind of pointing says : well Im gonna take the one, the shoot the 2 and come around for the 3, then 6 , 7 , 8 boom boom boom.....I said , son thats NO PATTERN you dont have to play shape on any of that you could leave yourself ANYWHERE on the table and run the first 3, since the 1 and 2 were hanging in the pockets, and boom boom boom dont tell me JACK. So all night I just kept asking him about patterns. Everytime I shot I said an out loud plan and said what whitey was up to. By the end of the night I can tell you this, I dont think I will have to worry about playing him again. You know I dont usually have a bad attitude when playing but I just didnt like his tone of voice and really think all this was about was trying to shark me. After thinking about it, I think he was playing dumb and trying to just keep me in the chair for some reason but hes not stupid, just slow.
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9BallBust-O said:Just looking for some advice or words of wisdom.
I play with this dude from time to time that will take like 7-8 min to run from say.... 5 - 9 ball. He will look at table FOREVER then get down on stance, stroke like 15 times, then stand back up and look again, get down on shot, practice stroke like 15 more times, then change from shooting top to botom english, then practice stroke for like 15 more times and finally shoot - and this could be with ball in hand. I seriously feel myself gettin ticked inside and frustrated by the time I am ready to shoot. Then when I shoot he always out loud questions what I am doing or ask why did I make that shot, but in a " WTF are you doing" kind of way.** Even though I usually beat him.** I dont play for money with him but I am just wondering if I were in a tournament with a player like this or playing for $$ , HOW do you mentally deal with this and what do you do sitting there for like 15 min??
I've never dealt with that, but I imagine if this happened to me, I would get out my paperback book and start reading while he's taking his time shooting. That way, 1) I don't get the waiting get to me and possibly screw up my mental game, and 2) I get closer to finishing my book.
If you're playing for fun or practice, I'd bring a newspaper. When he's at the table, make it very obvious that you're reading the paper and not watching him. If he says anything to you about disturbing him, look at him stupidly and apologize for interrupting his concetration and go back to reading the paper. When it's your turn to shoot, take your time getting to the table. Whatever you do, do not let his slow play affect your game.
Now if you're playing in a tourney and you have to play him, before the match, go to the TD and let him know you want a shot clock for the table. That means you're both on the clock. Let your opponent know that your both on the clock. If he objects, then he needs to take it up with the TD.
Now if you're playing in a tourney and you have to play him, before the match, go to the TD and let him know you want a shot clock for the table. That means you're both on the clock. Let your opponent know that your both on the clock. If he objects, then he needs to take it up with the TD.