Help identify an unknown / unmarked pool cue?

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vintagecollectibles831

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This cue does not have any identifying marks on it.

Thanks for any thoughts.
 

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vintagecollectibles831 said:
Do they all look the same to you, or does this one look better or worse? Any opinion on the quality, based on what you see in these pics? Do you see anything good, or bad? Thanks for any other thoughts.
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There is a wide variety.
No, they don't all look the same to me, but they do have some typical styles.
This one? Looks nice. I don't hate it.

Honestly it vould have been made anywhere though.

Philippines is just an educated guess.
 
With there being such a variety of quality and styles between these "Asian Import" cues, what are some of the signifying features to look for? Is there an average price range they go for, or is it totally subjective? Thank you
 
Chopdoc said:
There is a wide variety.
No, they don't all look the same to me, but they do have some typical styles.
This one? Looks nice. I don't hate it.

Honestly it vould have been made anywhere though.

Philippines is just an educated guess.
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Thanks for your replies.

I do not know about this cue, but I know that when it comes to cue makers from the Philippines, there is a very wide variety in the quality, just like with cue makers from the USA, for example.

I believe that there are at least several cue makers from the Philippines that are every bit as talented as a lot of the well known cue makers from the US.

Maybe even more, because they have a very unique way of building their cues. It seems they do a lot of it by hand. It is really interesting, the way they cut out the sockets for the inlays, and put them in. All done by hand. And, some of those guys are Masters at it.

I have seen some of Edwin Reyes cues, for example, and they look very high quality. He actually learned from one of the Legends from the USA. Can't remember the guys name though.

Anyways, it just seems to me that cues from that country are looked down on. They are put into that "Asian import" category, as if that term is some sort of a slight on those cues.
 
Cartune said:
With there being such a variety of quality and styles between these "Asian Import" cues, what are some of the signifying features to look for? Is there an average price range they go for, or is it totally subjective? Thank you
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Some Asian imports go for many thousands of dollars.

Zen cues for example. They are made in China.

Zen cues start out at probably at least $2500 these days, for a Merry Widow, and go up from there. Up to tens of thousands of dollars.

The cue they made for Ko Pin Yi was a $30,000 cue.


There are many other high end cue makers from Asia.
 
Zen's are beautiful cues!

I was more referring to the "Asian Import", I guess no name cues? They defiantly seem to have a stigma on here and some look good, I am just starting to collect but want to know what to keep my eyes out for. Thanks for any advice
 
Cartune said:
Zen's are beautiful cues!

I was more referring to the "Asian Import", I guess no name cues? They defiantly seem to have a stigma on here and some look good, I am just starting to collect but want to know what to keep my eyes out for. Thanks for any advice
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Well, just because the cue has no name on it, does not mean that it never had a name, or signature on it. The Signature may have came off during a refinish. That happens a lot when cues get refinished.

Cheap Asian imports tend to just look very low quality. Overlays / Decals, low quality materials, low quality woods used in the cues. Cheap looking designs. I also believe that they tend to have Flat Faced 5/16x18 joints, and also joint pins that are very uncommon. Anything that does not look like one of the Major joint pins.

Someone above mentioned Kaiser, and thought that the cue I posted pics of is a Kaiser. Well, here is an example of a Kaiser.


Notice anything cheap about that cue? It is a $100 cue for good reason.

Low quality materials used in the cue, and Decals / Overlays.

Point being, that No Name cues can be good quality too.

The cue snobs on this forum will never see it that way though.
 
Thank you for the reply. The Kaiser in the picture just looks like a cheap cue, but the one in your original post looks to be very well crafted, with inlays, sharp points and ring work. I, in my limited experience, would not consider it to fall under what some would call an Asian import, but more of a higher end cue. Am I wrong in this though, if so please enlighten me. Thanks
 
Looks like Philippine made cue.
The points are chiseled and super glued.
Regular 3/8 joint screw is a little less common from cues made there.
 
vintagecollectibles831 said:
Well, just because the cue has no name on it, does not mean that it never had a name, or signature on it. The Signature may have came off during a refinish. That happens a lot when cues get refinished.

Cheap Asian imports tend to just look very low quality. Overlays / Decals, low quality materials, low quality woods used in the cues. Cheap looking designs. I also believe that they tend to have Flat Faced 5/16x18 joints, and also joint pins that are very uncommon. Anything that does not look like one of the Major joint pins.

Someone above mentioned Kaiser, and thought that the cue I posted pics of is a Kaiser. Well, here is an example of a Kaiser.


Notice anything cheap about that cue? It is a $100 cue for good reason.

Low quality materials used in the cue, and Decals / Overlays.

Point being, that No Name cues can be good quality too.

The cue snobs on this forum will never see it that way though.
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That was a joke of course. Kaiser used to make $100 SW clones; close enough look and zero wait. My kind of cue. :p
 
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