Help Identify This Cue Please!

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Friend of mine bought this and has no clue what it is. Please identify. No name on it anywhere.


(By the way. if you are guessing Stacey, Mike already said no).

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did he buy it new? show a pic of the shaft and the tip if it has the orginal tip on it.. i dont want to insult anybody.. to me it looks like a kasier cue..
i just looked at their current line and there are similair ones but nothing exact.. it seems it maybe an older model, which has the rings from one the points from another.. i dont know for sure but thats what it looks like to me.. did he pay alot for it?

chris

http://www.jjcue.com/kaiser3.htm
 
It was bought off of ebay. The seller did not know anything more either.

I sell Kaiser's in my pro shop and I know it is not one of those. This has the qualities and cleanliness there... It is american made and pretty darn good. Veneers are mitered, not stacked, and pretty evenly so. Points are even, I mean... someone that knows a thing or two made this. It has an acme big bolt that looks like something Migliore made, possibly (the pin, not the cue). It has joint protectors that have matching veneered ring work... it's not a cheapo. I just don't know what it is.

It looks very much like a Pete Omen design, and the workmanship is up there, but his cues have his markings and this one does not.
 
I was going to guess Omen as well...but...Omen marks his pin or signs his cues for the older ones. The matching JPs...Hmmm...Viattorre maybe? Anybody looked under the wrap for a clue or took off the bumper?
 
That's the same as Kaiser. KC = Kaiser Cue. They are made by the same people anyway... I know it looks the same, but up close you can tell this one is quality. This ain't a taiwan cue.
 
i_maycotte said:
I was going to guess Omen as well...but...Omen marks his pin or signs his cues for the older ones. The matching JPs...Hmmm...Viattorre maybe? Anybody looked under the wrap for a clue or took off the bumper?
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No clues under the bumper. It is cleanly bored and tapped 3/8x16 though... another sign that it is not from overseas. Plug style soft rubber bumber, like many of us use.

I have not removed the wrap, but that might be next.
 
Also has a laminated handle section, or so it appears from looking under the bumper. Those are sold mostly from Atlas, I have used them at times.
 
it's a overseas cue.
my bud has bought many of them.
the same guy sells a case that you would swear is a 2x4 whitten.
the combo case/cue sells for under $250 i believe.

chris G
 
I saw this cue too and wondered about it. I think this cue sold for something like 300. Now that was a 300 dollar chance I didn't want to take but I could somewhat tell that it wasn't made overseas from the picture but wasn't willing to take the chance. If this is the same cue than it did sell for around 300. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tony
 
Mystick Cue Fan said:
I saw this cue too and wondered about it. I think this cue sold for something like 300. Now that was a 300 dollar chance I didn't want to take but I could somewhat tell that it wasn't made overseas from the picture but wasn't willing to take the chance. If this is the same cue than it did sell for around 300. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tony
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Yes, this is the one on ebay that went for $315. The new owner is very please with the buy.
 
bogey54311 said:
it's a overseas cue.
my bud has bought many of them.
the same guy sells a case that you would swear is a 2x4 whitten.
the combo case/cue sells for under $250 i believe.

chris G
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Don't take this the wrong way, please, and I really appreciate any help identifying it, but trust me, it is NOT an overseas cue. I have been buying, selling and making cues for over 10 years and those guys on the other side have NEVER made something of this level. I don't know how else to say it, but it just looks, feels and plays too good. If you can sell me this for $250 with a case that looks like a Whitten, I'll take a dozen right now.

I'd bet good money this was made by hand, by someone here. There are too many American clues in it.

1. Joint pin is either Migliore's work or something made by hand here. It's 3/8x10 acme, which is a thread the imports have never done (not that I have seen, anyway).

2. The shaft wood is really tight grained, fairly white and very straight grained. Better quality than I have ever seen on an import.

3. The wrap is Green/White and really feels like the old school cortland wraps.

4. The handle section is laminated stock, like what Atlas sells to us.

5. 3/8x16 threaded weight bolt hole, tapered at the front with a very clean cut, like to perfectly fit the kind of weight bolts most cue makers here use.


I've seen all of that Jim Chao's (or whatever his last name is) cues (the KC cues guy) and the Kaiser's come from the same place. This is far better than that. Someone did a damn good job on this thing, I just wish we knew who.
 
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Looks like it could be some of Bryan Mordt's early work. Just the taper alone reminds me of one of his.

Second guess maybe early Capone. He was experimenting with laminates and brass lot before he started using the signature on the joint pin.

I couldn't agree more, definately looks American made and who ever did make it did a nice job.
 
Hit Man said:
Looks like it could be some of Bryan Mordt's early work. Just the taper alone reminds me of one of his.

Second guess maybe early Capone. He was experimenting with laminates and brass lot before he started using the signature on the joint pin.

I couldn't agree more, definately looks American made and who ever did make it did a nice job.
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Mordt... that is definitely a possibility. I hadn't thought of that one. I will contact him.

THANKS
 
Hi, do you think is this the same cue as yours?
(Sorry, my photography skill is not as good as yours. I tried to take it at the same angle for easy comparison)

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If it is, this is a taiwan made cue.
It comes with 2 shafts.
But I do not know who is the cue maker.
 
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I don't think that is exactly the same cue. However, if the one pictured from you is made in Taiwan, then where are these cues available? I would like to see one in person.
 
Looks like exactly the same cue to me. Taiwan or not it looks to be a well made cue from the pics.
 
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