Help me understand about 7 foot tables

M.G. said:
They're popular due to
- less space needed, more people packing
- idiot players wanting a videogame experience

A 7ft does not require a good stroke or that much position play, basically anything is on.
It can also get more difficult because there is less room for the same spaced balls.

In the end it's like sitting on a child's chair.

Cheers,
M
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Much like English Black Ball.

"Video game experience"?
7 and 6 footers have been around long before video games and the tele so that matter!

Don't look now, but you dropped your binky!
 
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Straightpool_99 said:
"There are more 7 footers in Chicago area than 9 footers.." I'm sorry, but this is a huge problem and not something to be happy about. The rest of the world are playing on 9 and 12 footers...If you want the US to be competitive, that's where the play must happen. Look, if some random guy is having fun on a 7 footer in his local bar, thats great. Maybe he'll get into pool and graduate to the larger surface, or continue on that equipment and have fun with his fellow bar players. Either way that's not something I have any problem with.

How would you feel if the world series of baseball suddenly became slow pitch softball? You know, to make the softball players more competitive? I'm guessing you'd not be happy about that. I happen to love pool. I don't want to see US opens on 7 footers. I think that's a bloody travesty! Make no mistake: Pool is under attack. The people in charge of the game either do not give a damned or have directly conflicting interest with us enthusiasts. They want banger money, they want more tables in less space, they want to pay out less money and they don't want professionals. Professionals have demands, they don't put up with bull crap. Amateurs are a dime a dozen. Screw them over and you've got 200 waiting in line to pay without making waves, or inconveniecing the industry agenda.

Slowly but surely the real, professional quality pool game is being phased out and replaced with something else. A random, unskilled game of chance! Handicaps, small tables, bars as tournament venues...I'm sorry but that's just not pool. Who are the winners in all of this: Well the guy that plays once a week and sandbags, the tournament directors and equipment manufactureres. The people who lose are those who take the game seriously and are now being told that they have no place in the sport, that their aquired skill is a detriment to the game because it makes the amateurs feel bad and are told that they are no longer welcome at the events. I'm not a pro, nor do I aspire to be one, but having pros is a very important thing. It gives you something to look up to, it establishes a standard and keeps pushing it ever forwards. With all amateurs and no proper tournaments, other than handicapped bar box ones, the industry will dictate all the equipment specs and they've allready sabotaged the sport so much that it pains to think of what they'll do next!

I love this game, and I'll be damned if I'm going to stand by quietly or even applaud people flushing the entire heritage of the game down the drain and replacing it with this garbage. What's the point of "saving pool", as it is often claimed this small table bs is doing, when what is left is not worth saving? I have no beef with people who love playing on 7 footers. If they like it, then let them enjoy it. I do have a problem with people claiming that this is the future of pool and that's the end of the discussion, and I especially have a problem with people claiming this is saving pool! I will not be short-changed and then pretend to be happy about it, and neither should anyone else.
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I'm giving a public green for this post:thumbup:
 
Sweatin' said:
I have no idea what a green is, but if it's a good thing I'm giving one too.
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The green check mark under the screen name, give good reputation, and you can add a nice comment with it if you like that only that person will see

Same can be done for something you don't like with the red box
 
Straightpool_99 said:
"There are more 7 footers in Chicago area than 9 footers.." I'm sorry, but this is a huge problem and not something to be happy about. The rest of the world are playing on 9 and 12 footers...If you want the US to be competitive, that's where the play must happen. Look, if some random guy is having fun on a 7 footer in his local bar, thats great. Maybe he'll get into pool and graduate to the larger surface, or continue on that equipment and have fun with his fellow bar players. Either way that's not something I have any problem with.

How would you feel if the world series of baseball suddenly became slow pitch softball? .
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You are conflating issues here. The OP thread was not about pro pool, only 7 foot tables. I don't much care what the rest of the world of amateur players play on to be honest. Let them play on what they like. Most folks that play on 7 footers are amateurs. Nobody on a softball field has visions of going "pro" nor do any APA players. So what? And the junior divisions play on 9 footers, so the next "best" think is coming out of those ranks, or somewhere else. The amateur leagues are NOT the minor leagues, just like park district softball and even recreation baseball are not the minors for pro baseball.

And if the world series ever went to slow pitch? Well, it would never happen. So, why discuss it. Not to mention, nobody has said that professional pool is going bar box.

So, this is the slippery slope argument. That suddenly, the US 9 ball might be played on 7 footers, or the DCC, or straight pool, 1PKT, etc. Sorry, not going to happen. Only one pro tourney that I can think of that is bar box, and that's the US Bar Box Championships, and every pro that play has the absolute right to refuse to play in it.

Actually, I've seen pro's play softball for exhibition or charity events, and it's kind of fun to watch as well. But, then again, nobody ever accused me of being a baseball snob ;)

Oh, and btw, softball players and other baseball amateurs are NOT propping up the sport of baseball. If softball ended tomorrow, baseball would still flourish and most folks would not notice, except for those that played. No so for folks that play on a 7 foot table.

How many tourneys is Diamond going to sponsor if they only sell half the tables they normally do. What about the cuemakers, and supply houses, how much are they kicking in when there is nobody buying their goods? If all amateurs (7 footers) suddenly stopped playing pool today, you could officially just read pool it's last rites, it would be over. APA would shut it's doors for good, because there would be no where to play pool for their members. Hey, we didn't close pool halls, ya'll did by not going to them for decades. So, don't blame us.

So, rather b1tch, moan and complain, I'd prefer you just said thank you :)
 
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beneath_the_sur said:
my passion for the games, does not fluctuate with its popularity
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Neither do the amateurs who play on 7 footers. They have fun every week. They are not worried about the ranks of professional pool as its not their job any more than it is mine is to worry about MLB.

But, just like the 9 footers, they are pool players and have just as much fun. That can't be a bad thing, right ?
 
ChicagoRJ said:
Neither do the amateurs who play on 7 footers. They have fun every week. They are not worried about the ranks of professional pool as its not their job any more than it is mine is to worry about MLB.

But, just like the 9 footers, they are pool players and have just as much fun. That can't be a bad thing, right ?
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I'm not worried about pros
I just think it's a joke
Carom pro events play only on 10fters
Snooker pros 12
I wonder why

I'v never said it was bad, just not my preference
But we can sit here and discuss what we think about it as fans
 

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beneath_the_sur said:
I'm not worried about pros
I just think it's a joke
Carom pro events play only on 10fters
Snooker pros 12
I wonder why

I'v never said it was bad, just not my preference
But we can sit here and discuss what we think about it as fans
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Why would I care what carom or snooker pro's play on? Why is it a joke that amateur players play on tables that are not professional in size ? Here is a hint, they are amateurs and they play on the equipment that is available. I'll play on either one, because it's pool either way. Good players adapt to the equipment, no ?
 
I don't see anything wrong with barboxes.
I think it's just a different game.
The tactical short range movements and cluster management in barbox 8 ball is completely different than a wide open 8 ball rack on a 9ft table. Both are fun. Both require their own skill sets.

Saying 7ft tables is an insult to the game is like saying why aren't all holes on a golf course par 5's? Par 3's are for wusses.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
Why would I care what carom or snooker pro's play on? Why is it a joke that amateur players play on tables that are not professional in size ? Here is a hint, they are amateurs and they play on the equipment that is available. I'll play on either one, because it's pool either way. Good players adapt to the equipment, no ?
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first question pool snob, right?

second i already stated because its a joke that pros play on them because they are soo skilled they run 67 packs in a row, again i stated it does nothing for me, and doesn't make me want to find a quarter machine

im not going on about the amateurs, they play for fun like me
 
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I've been in love with the game of pool for 57 years and counting. I no longer care for 9 ball with the current rules and don't want to play it. I pretty much gave up 8 ball in 1973. I played on 9 foot tables for almost 25 years. When I moved to South Carolina 20 years ago I had to play mostly on 7 foot tables. I got pretty good on the 7 foot tables, just like I got pretty damn good at 9 ball with the current rules years ago. Doesn't mean I liked either. I'm 67 now and play almost exclusively at home on my 8 foot Olhausen Remington. If I play in competition again it will have to be on 7 foot bar tables. Probably won't happen. Like some others in this thread I play mostly Straight Pool and One Pocket and don't care to play either on a 7 foot table. I can identify with most of the reasons for not liking 7 foot tables but don't necessarily agree with all of them. But, I don't care to play on them myself.
 
Straightpool_99 said:
1. Bar boxes (7 footers) change the game. IMO bar box pool is by far inferior as a game. It makes running out easier, and is less demanding of your stroke.
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More clusters to break out and less room to work position can make running out much harder.

Bar box 8b, 14.1 and 1p are delicate games.

I'll say though, 9b and 10b are too easy on the bar box. No congestion issues.
 
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