HELP...please

SpiderWebComm said:
If you're really close quarters and a THIN cut, aim about 1/2 tip overlap between the CB and OB (with your cue aimed through the overlap, like a skewer) and pivot to center ball....and continue about 1/4 tip (just a little) beyond center.

When you stroke, let the cue slide in your hand to ensure you dont steer because it feels as though you're going to miss, but you won't.

...just a little RonnieVfromNYC knowledge there.

I can't think of a better way to make this classification of shots.

Nice:thumbup: I have to try this. I was practicing the combination system and I think I got it to work. Did you get the position system yet?
 
Try this, Randy-

On a thin cut, where the balls are close together; find the contact point on the OB (this is the only time I ever use "contact point"). Next, line the inside edge of the CB to the contact point. Make sure you are sighting from edge to contact point. Your eyes will actually be offset from the cue (if you normally have the cue directly under your chin).


Eric
 
Eric. said:
Try this, Randy-

On a thin cut, where the balls are close together; find the contact point on the OB (this is the only time I ever use "contact point"). Next, line the inside edge of the CB to the contact point. Make sure you are sighting from edge to contact point. Your eyes will actually be offset from the cue (if you normally have the cue directly under your chin).


Eric
Do you mean to say CB or cue ferrule?

Fred
 
Randy by very close I have assumed that to mean ob and cb withing a balls width. In this situation, while not a system, as others have mentioned, I have found standing higher (like eyes almost directly over the cb and ob to be very helpful) and while this goes against all conventional wisdom with eyes in this position my stroke is more as if I were also shooting over an object ball. I don't know the why but my make percentage goes up considerably with this approach despite the elevated stroke. Perhaps just do to the eyes seeing the cut angle better.
I observed this from straight-pool practice where I was shooting over balls in the rack with ob and cb close together and having a high make percentage and carried it over from there.

For what its worth.
Steve
 
Hope the research is going well!

Well, this B player will give it a shot! lol

Actually, the "system" I use entirely hinges on using the cue as a staight edge to help judge the cuts.

If the balls are really close and the cut is thin, (holding the cue over the table) I'll sometimes line up the edge of my cue with the inside edge of the cue ball and outside edge of the object ball and using an imaginary right angle, I try to see how far from 90 degrees the cut is.

One key thing to know when calculating angles for me is that 5 degrees is exactly the width of a 2 1/4" ball from just over two diamonds away (only 3/4" over) on a nine foot table.

I try to regularly practice thin cuts at 5 degree intervals and when it get's to game time, I'll judge thin cuts as super thin, 5, 5 strong, shy 10, 10, 10 strong etc. For whatever reason, it seems easier for me to visualize these shots as something less than 90 degrees rather than some big number like 75 or 82.

As the cuts get heavier, I'll sometimes hold the butt edge of the cue over the contact points and see where the cue is pointing. With a little adjusting, sometimes mental, sometimes physical, for the distance between the contact points and the center of the cueball, I'll sight down the cue and pick a spot on the rail, or maybe somewhere in the room where I need to aim the center of the cueball. I use this mainly to help tell me where I should stand before stepping into the shot. (Usually, when I step into the shot right, I'm okay from there.)

I guess if using your cue as a ruler to help figure out the lines qualifies as a system then a system it is. (As long as you don't lay the cue down on the table and let it go right?) :D

Again, good luck with the search. I'm interested in where this might go!
 
randyg said:
My research continues.......SPF=randyg
Complete handwaving, but sometimes, if you use a three angle or two point or whatever aim system, when the balls are really close, you can confuse yourself as to which aimline to use. Often times, it's the next one.


Fred
 
randyg said:
Is there any poster here that could help me.

I'm looking for a system to aim a certain shot:

When the cueball is very close to the object ball and I have to cut it to pocket it. Anyone here have a system that really works for every close shot????? This may be my toughest shot.....SPF=randyg


This is the only time i actualy aim 1 1/8 behind the ball.I find the spot on
the table that is 1 1/8 behind ball and never take my eyes off it till i fire.

If the shot requires an extreme cut i always aim past the ball where i am actually missing the ball.
There will be a small gap between the two ball,now i place my head off to the side of the cb and
move the edges back together.This really works even if the cb and ob are a foot away.
 
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