Help with left and right english.

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twiztid_cue

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Lastnight I could not make a ball to save my life. I was playing 1 pocket which im not the greatest at (my friend Lou spots me 10-6). When i went to use english on some of the longer shots i wouldn't hit with more then a 1/2-1 tip off center ball. When i do this about 80% of the time i notice the ball doesnot travel straight. Could it be my follow through? I haven't been playing as much as i have i use to play 4-5 hours a day now its about 2. I also noticed that i am trying to remember what I need to do to get to the next ball. Maybe it was jsut cause i had a migrain yesterday and was tired as hell but it happens to where the ball will curve any day of the week.

Someone help.
 
Chuck- I used to have the same problem with the english not taking effect or the cue would veer off the intended path. I found out thru video taping myself that I was "poking" the CB and not stroking thru. I started to follow thru more and the CB stayed on path more as well. I highly encourage everyone ametuer player to video tape themselves and look at what appears to be wrong with your stance, stroke, follow thru and everything else to do with your game. Sometimes I just find myself lacking concentration and have to take a restroom break, wash my hands and start fresh! That usually helps me!
(Good news on the Dominiak...the cues will be shipped to me Tuesday, I should have them and inspect them, and ship your cue and accessories out by Friday/Saturday morning 27th/28th!)
Good luck fixing your "english" problem. Stay focused!

...Zim
 
Yea I do have a poking problem:D I can hit a stop shot like a it was a car hitting a wall. But I know i am suffering in my follow through and it is going to take me focusing more on that instead of feeling uncomfortable following through. That is great news that they are almost to you. I start my vacation june 30th so i will have something to play with when that time comes.
 
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That makes 2 of us Chuck! I start my vacation on 25th and end on 9th of July and I too will be playing with my new Dominiak. I'm just as anxious as you are to receive it. Thanks for the patience on the cue, I know you'll love it!

...Zim
 
Hi,

ENGLISH... that is a touchy subject.. no matter what side right or left, a certain amount of "throw" occurs. Takes lotsa practice to master it and get the feel of hitting and knowing how the OB reacts with either side... INSIDE SPIN- the cueball throws away from the OB.. its tough!.. OUTSIDE SPIN- the cueball throws inside the OB. and when the cueball contacts the OB the spin affects the OB and throws it away from the pocket... confusing!!!

hope this helps
 
that's deflection(squirt), and it gets magnified the farther the CB has to travel.
 
On another thread, it was said to shoot the CB close to the long rails with inside or outside English and you will notice that the CB rolls straight to the pocket without traveling left or right of the pocket which says tha the CB rolls straight and parallel to the cuestick stroke - for it is sliding over the cloth. I tried this and it was correct for the CB neither touched the rail or missed the pocket at the end of the long rail - this with a medium hit. with a slow hit, the CB would veer to the left with left English and right with right as the spin overcame the sliding of the CB on the cloth.

A really good player I know said that he gets down (lines up) as if he is going to use center ball and then moves his bridge to the left for left English and right for right and that works for me. I notice that Efren strokes with low center ball and applies the English on the hit and follow through - that also works.
 
I brought up english on another forum and was suggested centerball due to my lack of experience. I do use english sometimes though because I guess I just cannot help myself!!!

Seriously, I have not gotten to the point of using much english on long shots due to swerve effects. i can use it fairly well, for some reason if the ob is within a diamond of the pocket, but when the ob is about 2 diamonds out, I have to use centerball. My mind has learned to conpensate some for contact induced throw.

I know some good players, really good, who can use whatever english is required depending on the shot, and that really amazes me.

Good luck on your english problems. i work a lot on the fundamentals too, like others suggested and just potting balls. Everyone says if the fundamentals are right, the game will follow.

I am starting to believe them
 
Lastnight i was trying to understand how the QB deflects while using english and i found out that a good follow through helps tremendusly. i had little to no deflection and i was making shots i would normally miss. After a scratch i didnt have any shot but a back cut bank cross table into the side. My friend Anthony who i was playing knows if you set that shot up 10 times i might make it 3 times. He said you didnt mean to do that did you. I said actually i did because i didnt have a clear bank cross table in the corner. Well I used a lot of right english and made the ball cross table in the side. I made a little drawing on how the shot was setup.
 

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its not the nicest table but it will do. and from there i made the remaining stripes and missed the 8 but won the game when he didn't hit the 4 railer hs likes to hit me with.
 
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