help with the stroke of woman (breast problem)

[Solartje]

Hi Jennifer,

one of your european fans here.
got a question for u.

yesterday my girlfriend asked me to teach her how to play pool. I started out with the basic, bridge hand, where to put the other hand, the aiming position, foot position etc... now i found out a weird thing. well not weird, just couldnt find a good position for her.

How big is the breast a problem. i use to play with my cue tight against my body, but when she bends over, it seems its physically not possible or hard for her to put the cue to her body like i do. (she isnt a DD or anything, just a regular size). it just seems like she cant put her cue tight to her body without pressing on the breast part... does the cue touches the body lower (stomach part) or do u press it against the breast? or?...

how different is the stand on a woman vs a man? do u have a picture of yourself or a woman, so i can see how she must use her cue.

also weird part is, if i asked her to stand still, put the tip of the cue close the cb, and her swinginarm 90° vertical to the cue, her hand wasnt behind her body like it should. it was touching her body. so she had to take the cue all to the back so she had some space to do the stroke. and her arm was way over 90°. more like 130°

do u got some sugestions?

 

[Josh Palmer]

Yeah Jen, I too would like a picture, preferably in a bikini, so I can "show" women how to hold the cue.. lol... just kidding dude, I know you're serious at least I hope so). So yeah, bikini, lingerie, whatever you got is cool.

 

[Solartje]

im serious. ive got my girl and jen has her man. that she looks faboulous has nothing to do with it. the problem is , how different is the way they hold the cue. its hard to explain in words what the problem is, as my englisch is not very TOP. but if her swingarm is 90° vs the cue, her hand isnt behind her back, but its at the same hight where the cue touches her body. (and it touches it on the breast-place, instead of the chest like i do. is this normal? or is there anything i should know about differences.

 

[JennBarretta]

Solartje...I'm with you. Men and women have to position themselves differently! In this shot my cue is elevated because I'm close to the rail, but you can see where I position my cue. I also turn my hips at an angle so they don't get in the way of my swing.

 

[ScottR]

Solartje...I'm with you. Men and women have to position themselves differently! In this shot my cue is elevated because I'm close to the rail, but you can see where I position my cue. I also turn my hips at an angle so they don't get in the way of my swing.

Yeah, sure. I bring up your hips and Landshark is all over me. Now its breasts and she doesn't say a word.

 

[Solartje]

mmm never thought of the hips part, i supose your feet stand different then to. maybe the forward on straight in line with the cue and the back one turned 90°... Doesnt the turned hips influence your stroke?
Your cue also seems to be higher against your body (above the breast area). ill try it on the next time she wants to play a game.

thx alot for the info Jenn.
Good luck in your games.

 

[JennBarretta]

That's about right with the feet. The turned hips actually help because otherwise my hand would be hitting (or very close to hitting) my hip.

 

[Solartje]

u where 100% right.

went to my local club, and gave her a 3 hour (well 2 hours, it was her bday, and she got a bit tipsy after 2 hours of drinking baileys ) and it was greath.

turning the hips WAS the solution. and with the new stand the breast isnt that a problem anymore. i did make one error.. she could only pot straight balls, as soon as they where of straight she had no idea how to shoot it. (yes she is really a novice, maybe not good to post it here on a pro forum, but we all got to start somewhere...). before she potted maybe 1/10 balls if i left something in the jaws of the pocket. after training her bridge hand and her stand, i teached her potting non -straight balls with the ghost ball technique. it worked VERY good. she cant yet imagine the ball herself. so i had to use another ball so she could imagine it easyer, and explain her why i put the ball in that exact position.. and after 1 hour. she potted 4 balls consecutivly. ok nothing the brag about, but seeing from where she comes, in only 3 hours of training, i think its a greath improvement. wont tell how we finished the end of the night, cuz we where both pritty drunk but i really enjoyed it. the fact she really shows interest in my favorit sport, and the fact she really liked it. i think she's getting slowly hooked on pool

now i got another question: what is your opinion on couples playing together?
i know i prefer her not to come when im playing a major tournament. i just dont play as well. i feel the need to talk to her between games, see that she's having funetc, where as on a tournament i prefere to not talk to anyone. just focus and concentrate on my next game...

how is your experience? had u every had a boyfriend who played pool to? did u like to train with him or do u prefere to train alone of with very good players. did u take them to tournaments?

 

[JennBarretta]

When I'm at tournaments I like to be alone. It helps keep me stay focused on what I'm there to do. Every now and then my husband will come with me, but he understands that I need my space. If your girl becomes a player she'll understand, too!

 

[Solartje]

i dont think she'll ever have any ambition of doing tournaments or so. playing pool is just more fun for her, if she can pot some balls, and understand what she's doing. i agree with u on the man part. i wouldnt mind her coming with sometimes, but i dont think she would enjoy it. as qualifying rounds can last many hours. from 10am till 11pm easily and i need my space too. i know ive never been in the zone when she is near, not even when practising in my club.

but im not sure about the no sex before a match theory i find it very relaxing, and i get into the zone ALOT faster. wont ask u what u think of that might be to private question.

good luck in the next matches Jen, and hope u can use what u learned from last crappy match in the next one.

 

[StormHotRod300]

Ok, now i have heard girls complain about thier chest getting in the way, of the cue.

Now i always wonder'd if going to more of a square stance like Karen Corr does, would help eliminate that problem.

Because most women if they cant figure out how to not have thier chest in the way, tend to chicken wing the cue.

Or how about a lil bit more upright.


dave

 

[Solartje]

well, its weird, but the breast wasnt so much a problem like i thought. it didnt hurt or squeeze them to hard (using her words ). like Jen said, the hand touching the hips was the biggest problem.


ps how u like my new avatar? still not sure, was thinking of adding a chrome cue so the 8 ball looks angry at the brakecue.


Jenn, i got an idea. probably useless but it dont hurts asking. how about i design u a new avatar or any 3d modeled picture for your site, in echange of sending me a signed poster or 8ball... i lost my job last week, and financially... well we are both broke. Yes, those signed items dont cost much, but the bit of money we have we need to spend it on more important things. As i got time now on my hands till i find a new job, might aswell put it to good use, and maybe get a nice gift for me and my girlfriend im sure she'd love to have any of these two small gifts and me too.

 

[Danny0518]

looks like an 8 ball with its own personal mail box to me!

 

[Solartje]

mmmm second time i get this comment. u really think so? thought it looked like a angry mouth. maybe im over-imaginative maybe this new picture will help...

http://users.pandora.be/solartje/pool13 copy.jpg

 

[cyrex]

8 ball

Looks like it's wearing safety goggles. Well, 'safety' first I always say. Especially when it involves breasts and hips. 8-)

 

[cmartor3]

wow, talk about getting off the subject...& "not literally getting off guys"
You should possibly add maybe teeth to the 8ball to make it look better,, or maybe a tongue..but without that comment next to it,, you couldnt tell its a mouth..

By the way my boobies are not that big, but i have a friend on my pool team that suffers from chicken wing syndrome & she cant set her body straight, so shes got no balance & no aim..all because her boobs get in the way.....I wish that was my problem...But then again she's only a skill level 2 in the APA....

Hey Jen....When did you know it was time to start playing in the WPBA? did you wait til you were more comfortable shooting in all the local tournaments first, or did you just kind of go for it?

 

[Solartje]

cmartor. dont wish u had bigger. small is cute, and a cute girl with chickingwings dont look very ... u know about the teeth and tongue.. mm ive been thinking about it, but im more a simplistic guy.. irl too. simple, easy and funny. why make life hard?

talking about pro girls. in my country there are only 11 girls for over 500 man in the national competition... how come in the US u seem to have a better ratio? (or am i wrong?) any theorie for it?

 

[JennBarretta]

Hey Cmartor3,

There is no time that you will feel ready. I started playing qualifiers about 1 year after I started playing, and when I started winning I guess I was ready! The qualifiers are great experience & will prepare you for the "big show". I hope I see you there soon!

Jenn

 

[cmartor3]

solartje: wow i'm coming to your country...all those men & only 11 women...It still must be tough competition over there.... are you flirting with me? so where did ya get "solartje" from, or what does it mean?

 

[Solartje]

solartje: wow i'm coming to your country...all those men & only 11 women...It still must be tough competition over there.... are you flirting with me? so where did ya get "solartje" from, or what does it mean?

mm many questions in a small post. maybe better pm stuff, so jenn dont has to read things that are not for her... but ok here we go

yes: only 11. i often joke with my girlfriend that she has to play pool. even if she's always 11th. she'd still be earning money but dont get all exited. max money u can win on a national ranking is around 300$. if u count the money u pay for the trip, the money u have to pay to enter etc.. will u wont be buying any Louis Viton bags any soon

about how tough they are.. ive only played one match vs a woman in 2001 (wasnt a pool player back then, was playing snooker) and a friend asked me if i wanted to see some matches, and well i couldnt resist to subscribe myself and i lost vs her. so yes, i think they are good, but comparing to american players like Jenn, ud be kicking some serious *behinds* there.

about the flirting part... mmm ive got a girlfriend, and we live maybe 10 000km from eachother, so maybe / maybe not.. doesnt really matter right? a compliment is always welcome, and if its true, and it gave u even the tiniest smile. then why not?
maybe its my portugees half that just likes woman. i got alot more girls as friends then boys. never really thought of why, i just get along better with them. (ok i really like woman l, and u are cute)

the name solartje is a LONG story...
about 10years ago i was often listning to a late night /early radio show called starsystem. not much music, more fun, people calling, sometimes he'd put on some kind of relaxing music and he just talked for hours, inventing some weird story of a boy locked in a closed hearing noices etc... a very sick animator but loved to listen to it. he was amazing in inventing story's. it was like reading a book, but then hearing someone reading it, but his stories where all invented on the spot. when i got internet, i wanted to go on there forum to download some of the missed stories, but starsystem was already taken. as im 50% portugees, and i love sun and beach, i thought of solarsystem.
but then i had the problem, on some chatchannels the name was to long. so had to find something shorter. so it became solar. but it didnt sound very cute. didnt fit the image i wanted people to have, so i added the 'tje, wich is used for small. ( a small breast would be breastje ). and ive been using it everafter. (hence why i posted, small is cute )


added some pics.

sol-scheef: i was pritty... tipsy at a festival (and it was freesing cold)
24317: old picture, i think around 4y old, but i havent got any recent pictures :s
solartjerawl: me doing a imitation of the spanish macho guy

anyway, big kiss for the two lady's

ps: where did your name come from? not very comon nickname for a cute lady