Help with value of Mike Lancaster cue?

[justinb386]

U made a good trade when I lived down south I seen a couple of his cues and both people loved theirs.

Now u got a nice keeper to b proud of so keep and use it.

I think the Lancaster cue I have might actually be a jump / break cue, but I have not been unable to unscrew the part above the wrap that appears to be detachable. The cue looks a lot like the Lancaster jump / break cue in the link below.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=348964&highlight=Mike*Lancaster

I do not know though, because I have not been able to unscrew the butt (maybe there is no joint under that ring above the wrap).

The shaft is super thick, so I do not think it was made to be a playing cue. It plays just fine though (it is just that the shaft is too thick for my liking).

 

[Johnny Rosato]

That's a nice looking jump/break cue. It's supposed to unscrew. Now we have to find you a nice playing cue!

 

[cuesblues]

If it was a playing cue $250 is a good deal however lots of people don't want to spend $250 for a jump/break no matter what it's worth.
I've had a few jump/breaks set up as players, and they played really good.
Specifically an old Ernie Martinez j/b and a Jim Pierce, and both were phenomenal playing cues.
A friend had an extra Josh Treadway shaft that fit the Pierce too, and man what a combination.

I try all sorts of combinations due to the fact that I get so many extra shafts.
Some oddball combinations work and some don't, there is no rhyme or reason why, don't try to figure it out.

Personally I really like this Lancaster cue and would probably buy it for $200 or so
Where did you say it was for sale?

 

[cuesblues]

I watched the video and I have to say it was riveting.
Man at 3:15 when he showed both the butt & shaft, then started to screw them together, I almost jumped out of my chair.
The Lancaster cue video is chilling, all seven minutes of it.

 

[justinb386]

That's a nice looking jump/break cue. It's supposed to unscrew. Now we have to find you a nice playing cue!

Thanks, but I am unable to unscrew the jump part. Seems like it is super glued together, if there is in fact a quick release joint under that area right above the wrap.

 

[justinb386]

I watched the video and I have to say it was riveting.
Man at 3:15 when he showed both the butt & shaft, then started to screw them together, I almost jumped out of my chair.
The Lancaster cue video is chilling, all seven minutes of it.

Lol, I know it is a horrible video. It is not easy to take a video with a cell phone camera.

One question, is it common for jump / break cues to not roll perfect, and to have at least a little bit of a wobble when rolled together with the shaft?

I assume that since they would just built for jumping and breaking, then they would not need to roll perfectly straight, right?

I am unable to detach the jump part of the cue though, so maybe it is either not there, or maybe someone super glued it together.

I do not know.

 

[justinb386]

If it was a playing cue $250 is a good deal however lots of people don't want to spend $250 for a jump/break no matter what it's worth.
I've had a few jump/breaks set up as players, and they played really good.
Specifically an old Ernie Martinez j/b and a Jim Pierce, and both were phenomenal playing cues.
A friend had an extra Josh Treadway shaft that fit the Pierce too, and man what a combination.

I try all sorts of combinations due to the fact that I get so many extra shafts.
Some oddball combinations work and some don't, there is no rhyme or reason why, don't try to figure it out.

Personally I really like this Lancaster cue and would probably buy it for $200 or so
Where did you say it was for sale?

I have played some with the cue, and I can play just fine with it. The shaft is just way too thick for my liking though, and the wrap placement is too low. When I am shooting with the cue, hand my grip is on the finish part of the handle (where the jump screw should be located). I am not sure what type of joint that is. 3/8x10 maybe?

 

[cuesblues]

Lol, I know it is a horrible video. It is not easy to take a video with a cell phone camera.

With seven minutes of cue rolling I could not tell if it was straight or not straight.
Could you tell?
Was the pin bouncing around?

The angle of the camera wasn't on the side that I could
see the roll.
I'm not interested but I was a little bit.

 

[Johnny Rosato]

Where's the video?

 

[justinb386]

Where's the video?

Here is the video, but I would mute the audio if I were you (the people in the background are very noisy and obnoxious).

https://vid.me/Em1ms

For some reason it has the going up and down, and not side by side like I had the camera. I do not understand why Vidme did that to the video. Very hard to watch, and see the roll test because of the way the video is showing the cue.

 

[justinb386]

With seven minutes of cue rolling I could not tell if it was straight or not straight.
Could you tell?
Was the pin bouncing around?

The angle of the camera wasn't on the side that I could
see the roll.
I'm not interested but I was a little bit.

There is a very slight roll out in the butt, and no, the pin does not stay perfectly straight (I can see that it moves a little, when the butt is rolled). I can only assume that it is moving a little due to the slight roll out in the butt.

 

[justinb386]

With seven minutes of cue rolling I could not tell if it was straight or not straight.
Could you tell?
Was the pin bouncing around?

The angle of the camera wasn't on the side that I could
see the roll.
I'm not interested but I was a little bit.

Here is a link to another video that I took the night before last night, but it was on a bar table, and the lighting was not nearly as good (plus I really screwed up on the camera angle of that video, but at least it is straight). Again, the audio should be muted (unless you like the music playing), because the people behind me were very noisy.

https://vimeo.com/238149074

 

[Johnny Rosato]

There's nothing wrong with that cue. Any roll bad enough would have shown in the video!

 

[BmoreMoney]

Justin, I have no idear about the cue nor have I heard of maker . BUT, It does look like a really nice cue and if it hits good you probably stole it ( in reference to the lab top trade as I have a buddy that owns the biggest independent computer shops around my way and I know routinely these pieced together lab tops that are " rebuilt " routinely have an actual real money cost of about $25 bucks ) . I would love to see this cue with a black leather wrap, even better something exotic ( alligator or something - don't steal my idea lol ) and I do not know if you even like something like that but Imo would be very cool and I'd actually play with it ( assuming it hit good ).

Justin; on another note, I actually agree with you about something lol. Assuming I've read you right, I don't like those tapers that go from skinny to fat in 2.5 seconds ( just like when your at the club at 1:45 am and they turn on the lights ! ). I like skinny shafts ( 12 mm at best but prefer the uniform taper and as little as 11.5 is good with me ). Anyway, when you find a cue you like ( minus the taper ) why not have someone recur the shafts to your liking or better yet have a nice one built )?. Total cost for who.else cue could be plus or minus $200????

 

[JoeyInCali]

The over and under of the honeymoon with that cue is one week.
It will be for sale or on Ebay in a week.
Justin likes those " long taper ".
They're like God's gift to him.
Long taper .
Which really means long no-taper.
Which is also prone to warpage.

 

[BmoreMoney]

The over and under of the honeymoon with that cue is one week.
It will be for sale or on Ebay in a week.
Justin likes those " long taper ".
They're like God's gift to him.
Long taper .
Which really means long no-taper.
Which is also prone to warpage.

Well, with knowing about what Justin probably has in the lab top - Justin I will give you $150 for the cue sight unseen just cause I think it's " pretty ". I will pay for shipping and PP juice. Offer has a drop dead date of soon as it's listed anywhere.

 

[JoeyInCali]

Looks like a jump break cue to me .

 

[BmoreMoney]

The over and under of the honeymoon with that cue is one week.
It will be for sale or on Ebay in a week.
Justin likes those " long taper ".
They're like God's gift to him.
Long taper .
Which really means long no-taper.
Which is also prone to warpage.

Shamefully Joey, I really don't know all of the terminology of how shafts are cut. I do know that like Justin has said I can't stand how some are " thin " for maybe a third of shafts then " get fat fast " lol. I like thin shafts. Don't know what you would call it but basically the top two thirds of shafts is basically the size of tip and ferrule then expands to joint . Some have told me " pro taper " but I don't really know. Best way I could explain it is the " old TS taper " , of which Leon has the machines and taper.

 

[BmoreMoney]

Looks like a jump break cue to me .

Seriously ? I thought it was just Justin being.......

 

[justinb386]

Justin, I have no idear about the cue nor have I heard of maker . BUT, It does look like a really nice cue and if it hits good you probably stole it ( in reference to the lab top trade as I have a buddy that owns the biggest independent computer shops around my way and I know routinely these pieced together lab tops that are " rebuilt " routinely have an actual real money cost of about $25 bucks ) . I would love to see this cue with a black leather wrap, even better something exotic ( alligator or something - don't steal my idea lol ) and I do not know if you even like something like that but Imo would be very cool and I'd actually play with it ( assuming it hit good ).

Justin; on another note, I actually agree with you about something lol. Assuming I've read you right, I don't like those tapers that go from skinny to fat in 2.5 seconds ( just like when your at the club at 1:45 am and they turn on the lights ! ). I like skinny shafts ( 12 mm at best but prefer the uniform taper and as little as 11.5 is good with me ). Anyway, when you find a cue you like ( minus the taper ) why not have someone recur the shafts to your liking or better yet have a nice one built )?. Total cost for who.else cue could be plus or minus $200????

Thanks for the compliment about the cue. To be honest, I really do not like the cue. I might if the shaft was much thinner. The shaft feels to be at least 13mm (more over 13mm). I think that the cue probably was made to be a break cue (maybe a jump / break, but I am unable to detach the part that looks like it has a joint underneath it). I am pretty weak, so maybe it is just screwed on super tight, and I am just not strong enough to unscrew it, lol.

On an off topic note (about shaft tapers that I like). There is one shaft that I played with that did not have a long taper on it (that I really loved), and that was the Lucasi Hybrid (that is a really great hitting shaft, that has a pretty stiff taper on it).