Heyball
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No wonder I can't find any Heyball cues.
Is Heyball Chinese 8-ball?
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yes. The CBSA calls their version Chinese8ball where the ICEA/WPA/JOY uses Heyball. ICEA-WPA teamed up in 21:https://wpapool.com/wpa-icea-joint-press-statement/
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They use pool cues with smaller tip diameters generally, 10.5-12 usually.
Kidding.
I know but you just never know what insane questions people ask on here.
This American Heyball shit - play on super tight pool tables. DONE. The whole thing for the price of new rubber.
Flakeandrun
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More often than not they are using one piece, ash cues (or that's what the average player longs for or thinks is the most suited for the task). I've seen some beautiful snooker cues bastardised into fatter tips. They import American made cue butts, or British made snooker cues on mass. Usually 10-11.5mm is the desired tip size. Often I see custom cues with the smaller Cuetec Synergy shaft. I assume a large percentage of those smaller Cuetec shafts are sold here, and would go as far as to say they purposefully created them to target the Chinese 8-ball market. It's certainly not useful for American tabled games or snooker.
There has been a huge influx in quality made Chinese brands lately. I've posted about this often in other threads. Not re-hashing it here.
I play with a MEzz Cp21 and 12mm shaft. Works very well for me.
among the pros in that game it seems those that come from pool play with 2 piece pool cues (often flashy) and those that come from snooker play with 1 piece ash cues?
I fail to understand why the smaller tip size? Given the balls are 57.2 mm pool balls, so history tells us the shaft is supposed to be 14-15 mm
Or about 12-13 of the modern era.
Flakeandrun
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Yes, some truth to that. There is a lot 2-piece or 3/4 jointed ash snooker style cues. Fury make some nice ones actually. This is because domestically, you could play two or three decent pay out tournaments a week if you wanted to, and also they invite a lot of foreigners to come and play. Jointed cues are naturally a bit easier with travelling demands. Like I said, those playing with more American style butts are usually partnering it with the slim cuetec. I have seen some beautiful snooker cues worth many thousand dollars bastardised into Chinese-8 cues.
The heated cloth, and the fact the green baize is napped. They are playing much slower speed shots, and utilising a lot more spin. It can be boring, but some of the shotmaking is incredible if you have the patience. The only time you'll see them put a bit of power into it, is down the rail into the outside knuckle.I fail to understand why the smaller tip size? Given the balls are 57.2 mm pool balls, so history tells us the shaft is supposed to be 14-15 mm
There are still some real good players using 12.5, but because of the crossover in cue sports, the purist attitude sees people reflecting what they consider to be the more difficult pursuit - snooker (not that it truly is, it's a different game altogether requiring different skills, but the 'standard cue ideal' for each game is just something that becomes an accepted reality over time).
'I have a smaller tip cause I'm a better player' - Same type of conversation I've seen pop up countless times here on the forum (and there's a current thread showing this actually). I get a bit of ribbing from friends for using a 12mm tip for Chinese-8. The same way my dad gets a ribbing for playing snooker with a 10.5mm tip. The difference between us though is my dad is a highly capable snooker player, and I am distinctly average at Chinese-8 haha
THEY PLAY ON A 9FT SNOOKER TABLE WITH SNOOKER-STYLE CLOTH AND ROUNDED POCKETS. SUPER TUFF GAME BUT ALSO BORING AS SHIT TO WATCH.
As PJ and others have clearly pointed out the contact patch difference between a 10 and a 13 is tiny so it doesn't really matter. For whatever reason they always tend to to use shafts in that 10.5 range. Many are one-piece ash snooker-style. My guess is they just slightly increased shaft size to play 8b when it started back in the day. A lot of early Ch8b guys started out playing snooker.I fail to understand why the smaller tip size? Given the balls are 57.2 mm pool balls, so history tells us the shaft is supposed to be 14-15 mm
Yes I know what Chinese 8 ball looks like. Bunch of elaborata with crappy pockets. At least you can hit super tight pool pockets down the rail.
Be surprised how many rail shots they make. Is 'elaborata' even a word??
I'm not a fan either. Very tough game with highly skilled players but its boring as fk to watch.
have you played on a chinese 8 ball / Hey ball table?
I have a couple buds that have played on them in Calif. Both said it was just a 9ft snooker table. Said game was pretty tough but not a whole lot of fun to play. I've really tried to watch it and i just can't get into it at all. Slow and the time-clock deal is bizarre. I mean wtf??? Just play shorter sets. Seems obvious to me.
Elaborata - elaborate stuff mostly the table cosmetics. It's a word now.Be surprised how many rail shots they make. Is 'elaborata' even a word??
I learned to pocket balls on a Brunswick type 10 foot snooker table. Those were probably tighter than today's regulation snooker tables. A ball frozen to the rail had to be dribbled in. Doesn't make for much of a pool experience.
3.5" to 3.75" pool cut pockets might make a more worthwhile 8 ball game than snooker pockets. 'Course if you eliminate the jaws and shelves, you can get the opening down close to 3".
Played 8 ball and practiced a bunch on 10 and 12 foot snooker tables. 2.25 balls of course.