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Before reading this, just know that I understand there are those who will defend Joe till blue in the face. I just want to ask one thing, "Why are there so many complaints against him?"

I just watched Chris Hightower's dvds and read his book. I want to say that they are what I've been looking for all along. The video appears to be done by himself and for that reason, it was a 'home video production', but that is just fine by me. The content of the DVD makes up for that fact so well, that you just get lost in watching this real master at work. His knowledge of machines is so incredible. The content of these videos covers as much as possible that could be packed onto a dvd. There is very little 'wasted time' on the dvd. He covers the entire repair process, and the entire cue building process, and the rhythm of the video just hums along. Simply put, he covers the basics of what you need to know. It satisfies all of the basic curiosities I had about joint rings, points, veneers, assembly, and even lathe operation. I think he filmed the dvd with the knowledge that you could just rewind if he went too fast. Joe Barringer's dvd's don't gallop along like that. He will sit there on camera describing the one time he ran across this guy in a pool hall and took in an apprentice, eating up tape time trying to 'squeeze out' every last drop of video time on just 'one subject'.

The nature of the Cue Component dvds are somewhat informative and it did satisfy my curiosity somewhat, but I feel he is long winded in a way that I don't care for. I felt like there was something missing. He will just sit there and BS about this, and BS about that. When you finally do get to see some action, it is not well planned. The finishing dvd for instance, is repetitive. You get to watch him rub CA glue up and down a spinning cue over, and over, and over. The repair dvd is actually good, but the others are explained in way too much detail. You get to watch him smoke cigarettes and act 'cool', like a Mickey Rourke wannabe or something. That's the overall impression I get when I watch Joe. When I watch Chris I feel like I am watching a real gentleman, who is someone who truly cares about my well being. I can tell the Holy Spirit is driving him to do what he does. It is a funny thing how the Holy Spirit works to reach out to those who are willing to receive him.

The content Chris Hightower has in one video is equal to four Cue Component videos. The object here is that I am not trying to bash, just reveal my honest feelings to those who may be looking to spend their hard earned dollars wisely. I want people to know that if you had to make a choice and were going to spend your money wisely to learn this stuff, I would buy from Chris. Joe Barringer obviously does not appear to want to do business with a gentleman like me simply because of how he treated me. I wanted to exchange a dvd that didn't work right in my computer, and he resisted me. I would highly advise that anyone planning on ordering from Joe Barringer do so with caution. He seems like a person you need to 'get to know' before he will do anything for you.

His outward expression that ineptly puts an exclamation point on his expertise is what makes him appear to be arrogant and 'All knowing'. His apparent lack of self esteem has created a 'tough guy attitude and I feel it comes off the wrong way. I am sure the man know his stuff and I am sure he loves pool, but man, he is somethin' else. I know he has a bad reputation and I also know others who are dissatisfied with him. If only someone could let him know that he needs to enroll in a traditional martial arts class so he could improve on his character, 'Oh what a difference that would make!' I knew this before I ordered, but wanted to give it a chance. I don't feel like my money was a total waste, cause I got to compare two methods.

If you were a beginning cue maker or were simply curious about how the cue building process was done, I would highly recommend doing business with this Chris Hightower. He is an apparent brother in Christ and a fine gentleman. I will most likely be ordering a Deluxe Cue Smith Lathe from him and as well as doing most or all of my repeat business with him. I also want to add that if not for some of the people on this forum, I may not be quite as far along as I am now. Since joining late last year, I have found that I am blessed to be in the presence of some incredibly knowledgeable people. The help I have received is worth one hundred times the price of my club membership if not more.

I only wish that we could focus more on being objective as opposed to seeing the 'negative' in some cases. After all, this is a pool forum for discussion. Let's try to get somewhere with it.;)
 
No Flames here

I agree, have both and got the needed info off of both.

good read
Thanks Kennan
 
Chris's finishing video is great. This video is a must for anyone thinking about cue building, or any newer builder having trouble with finishing.
 
Just from what you have said....I will spend my money buying Chris' DVD sets....nothing against the other guy, but if I wanted to hear pool stories, I would go up to Magoos and hear this guy names Sung tell tall tales of about how he beat out Johnny Red Fingers out of 20k in 1 pocket...:thumbup:

No, seriously, thanks for the information...I would rather spend my money on a DVD set that shows you all the basics, rather than spending money on someone to show bits and pieces..and do alot of talking....
 
ftgokie said:
Just from what you have said....I will spend my money buying Chris' DVD sets....nothing against the other guy, but if I wanted to hear pool stories, I would go up to Magoos and hear this guy names Sung tell tall tales of about how he beat out Johnny Red Fingers out of 20k in 1 pocket...:thumbup:

No, seriously, thanks for the information...I would rather spend my money on a DVD set that shows you all the basics, rather than spending money on someone to show bits and pieces..and do alot of talking....

Lol. As I said before, Shawn, you can borrow the Cue Components dvd's one or two at at time, just let me know. This guy Joe, does know what he's talking about, and believe it or not, he does actually teach you something. I am in no way trying to tear down Joe Barringer. I have never even met the man. I can only pass on my experiences and observations to those who may want to know.

BTW, it was 25k, not 20k. :rotflmao1:
 
I agree completely. Joe comes off as a know it all and that really chaps my ass. Does he even sell completed cues? I have seen VERY few. On the other hand I got a TON of good stuff from the dieckman tapes.( if you can them )
 
as always different opinions

As always there are different opinions. My dealings with Joe have been many times better than my dealings with Chris. I simply quit dealing with Chris and went directly to his supplier and a custom machine shop to get some use out of my $3000 I invested with Chris after it became obvious I was wasting time dealing with Chris. Had you stopped at video's I would have not posted since I have not seen Joe's but you chose to get into personalities also.

I had issues with an order from Joe, he went far above and beyond resolving the issue. I was shorted half the ivory I ordered, probably due to a scale issue. I expected the missing ivory replaced and a little extra would have been a nice "oops" repayment. Joe replaced the missing ivory and then doubled my original order! Chris did just the opposite refusing to give me some simple information I needed to purchase a seven dollar belt locally so I would have to order from him and be unable to use my machine until the belt got here. The $1850 lathe I purchased from him has had to be rebuilt from end to end due to one issue after another and I now have about twice that much in it. After repairing the lathe it still required major design changes to achieve and maintain a usable level of accuracy.

The worst mistake I made working with cues was to buy the Cuesmith Deluxe everyone was raving about at the time. I'm tired of biting my tongue and being nice about it. There were design issues, component issues, and assembly issues. A lemon.

Hu
 
I do not have the aforementioned DVD's, either, however I do have 2 Barringer cues. The communication between the 2 of us via e-mail, was similar to how you explain the videos. I never got a condescending feeling, but.... I'm not sure how to explain it. We all have ego's, especially pool players, but I think someone selling something should have very good "people skills". Just rambling now, not sure I've even said anything.

As a side note, I believe if anyone were to read through both of his websites, they would have a very good indication of what they would find on the videos.

EDIT: BTW, both cues are nice cues. And all transaction/communication was completed to my satisfaction, just giving my opinion.

I do agree with the last part of your OP. Seems far too many people are uncomfortable with giving an opinion, especially a negative one, on this site.
 
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Classic example of 2 diff people, 2 diff personalities...I am sure Both men have thier days....not everyone is going to be satisfied all the time...I didnt take anything anyone has said as bashing one or the other....sometimes people just rub you wrong....I am sure I do it to people as well...

Take that Sung guy at Magoos.....now there is a character...i do believe it was 25k....I stand corrected:rolleyes:
 
ftgokie said:
Classic example of 2 diff people, 2 diff personalities...I am sure Both men have thier days....not everyone is going to be satisfied all the time...I didnt take anything anyone has said as bashing one or the other....sometimes people just rub you wrong....I am sure I do it to people as well...

Take that Sung guy at Magoos.....now there is a character...i do believe it was 25k....I stand corrected:rolleyes:


:lmao: :rotflmao1: :rotflmao1: :lol: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
 
Well, I'm over here in Norway and here is my review of Chris DVDs,
I have not been in contact with the other mentioned part of the discussion:

The DVDs is simple and informative and show what I needed at the time i bought
them. As a video editor I have to say that the long time showing the titles by
filming the headings on a paper by using the stock fade in/out on the camera was a little to
long for my taste, but as you have mentioned, the DVDs show what you need
and what I at least liked.

Chris seems for me to be a very humble and friendly person (after buying his 3 DVDs, I did not know he had done one on finishing) and even if
he was a little skeptical when I called all away from Scandinavia, I love the mans attitude and help. I have been in the "Cue" area of this forum for a long
time and I have never ever seen any ill posts (even if there was some one
knocking on his feats in respect of business).
When it comes to his machinery and the likes, I have no experience but I
would most likely owned one of his machines if it was'nt because I lived
as far from the US as I'm doing.

Chris,DZ,KJ and many others have been a great inspiration up here so this
is just my humble view of one of the discussed "participants" .

Kent
 
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