Hitting better with a hard tip?

How the hell does pocket size figure in the tip hardness choice?? WTF.
My answer is....precision. 🤷‍♂️
As in the ping pong paddles analogous. A tight pocket requires precision. A large pocket is more forgiving and allows more focus on putting special sauce on whitey to move it through traffic.
Hard for precision and soft for forgiveness. With the skills required disclaimer for the hard choice. Tri angle is my choice as it's close to waterbuffalo but a little more forgiving.
 
That's not at all like soft tires and hard tires on race car, soft tips "grab" no more than hard tips, the "grab" in this instance comes from the chalk.
Thanks obvious.

I didn't say they did the same thing. I said there is a reason for soft/hard tips just like there is a reason for hard/soft tires.
 
smiling_Hans said:
"But the cue ball reacts to the tip. One is grabbing more than the other.

There is a reason why race cars use hard and soft tires."

Thanks obvious.

I didn't say they did the same thing. I said there is a reason for soft/hard tips just like there is a reason for hard/soft tires.
Race cars use soft tires because they do in fact grip the racing surface better, they are never out of contact with the racing surface. That creates extra heat so the tires must wear faster so the tire doesn't blister or overheat. Hard tires not so much so the wear rate is less but once again the tires are always in contact with the racing surface. I don't see how any of that is similar to a pool cue tip which has an extremely short contact time (less than a 1/10th of a second I believe). Regardless of tip hardness/softness it is mostly the chalk on the tip that creates the "grab" you speak of. Maybe they should make hard and soft chalk. :unsure:
 
smiling_Hans said:
"But the cue ball reacts to the tip. One is grabbing more than the other.

There is a reason why race cars use hard and soft tires."


Race cars use soft tires because they do in fact grip the racing surface better, they are never out of contact with the racing surface. That creates extra heat so the tires must wear faster so the tire doesn't blister or overheat. Hard tires not so much so the wear rate is less but once again the tires are always in contact with the racing surface. I don't see how any of that is similar to a pool cue tip which has an extremely short contact time (less than a 1/10th of a second I believe). Regardless of tip hardness/softness it is mostly the chalk on the tip that creates the "grab" you speak of. Maybe they should make hard and soft chalk. :unsure:
Really shouldn't feed the dancing bear. ;)
 
smiling_Hans said:
"But the cue ball reacts to the tip. One is grabbing more than the other.

There is a reason why race cars use hard and soft tires."


Race cars use soft tires because they do in fact grip the racing surface better, they are never out of contact with the racing surface. That creates extra heat so the tires must wear faster so the tire doesn't blister or overheat. Hard tires not so much so the wear rate is less but once again the tires are always in contact with the racing surface. I don't see how any of that is similar to a pool cue tip which has an extremely short contact time (less than a 1/10th of a second I believe). Regardless of tip hardness/softness it is mostly the chalk on the tip that creates the "grab" you speak of. Maybe they should make hard and soft chalk. :unsure:
Yes thank you obvious.

Hard and soft tips can affect hit just like hard and soft tires can affect traction.

Are you saying hard and soft tips don't affect hit? When a majority of the people in this thread have advocated for hard tips because of my reason.
 
The bottom line on cue tips is simple just like the age old question of Ford , Chevy or Dodge / which girl is the prettiest ha ha
For many years a Le Pro tip tapped with the rough edge of a 4 way wood rasp worked fantastically well for me along with the old masters chalk .
 
I've always felt you need to be a bit more precise with a harder tip (This i could be wrong)
I think it’s technically wrong, but if it encourages precision…

But that the CB has more of a bounce off the tip with a harder tip.
This is technically true, but a small effect easily duplicated with a softer tip and slightly harder stroke.

pj
chgo
 
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This is technically true, but a small effect easily duplicated with a softer tip and slightly harder stroke.

pj
chgo
This breakpoint is probably the reason for the notion. A great many people - self included have/had trouble maintaining accuracy as cue speed goes up. Had in my case - it took a great deal of trial and error work for me to learn to hit the ball efficiently. That long solved, I still think hard tips might be more forgiving.
 
Back in the day when I was starting to be serious about my pool game I used Le Pro tips on my cue at the time the choices were limited that or elk masters which back then they didn't last long at all.
But the Le Pro tip did get a once over with a tip tapper when and if I miss cued .
Don't forget those old reliable Triangles!!😂
 
I think it's more about, You doing what works for you.I stopped using triangles,a while back I couldn't find a good one.the quality,just hasn't been the same in recent years. The older ones where always the best.I never tried pressing them. I done that with elks. you soak them in milk.
But I have found some really nice buffalo tips lately. Hard as hell!! But they play, extremely well.
Your pressed ones,do you need to do any extra shaping, once it's all done?
What brand and where'd you get them?? Give us the deets plz.
 
Are you saying hard and soft tips don't affect hit? When a majority of the people in this thread have advocated for hard tips because of my reason.
I'm saying that for sure... Hard vs soft is 98% feel/feedback, and the other 2% is a variable adjusted for by stroke spd.

Don't let experience and especially physics get in the way of your argument though.
 
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