Home or Away Schedule

mreightball

mreightball

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Doe's anyone know how to do a home and away schedule?
All the scenarios I get have some of the teams play at home 2 weeks in a row and some away 2 weeks. Also if there are 2 teams that play at one spot and only have 1 table to schedule at least one at home every week.
Lets say for 14 teams.
Thanks
 
Having run a 10 to 16-team league for a good number of years and having created some of those schedules from scratch, I'll be real surprised if you're able to alternate Home and Away every week. It's enough of a challenge to get each team to play every other team once... and to balance the total number of Home and Away matches... good luck in your quest. ;)
 
mreightball said:
Doe's anyone know how to do a home and away schedule?
All the scenarios I get have some of the teams play at home 2 weeks in a row and some away 2 weeks. Also if there are 2 teams that play at one spot and only have 1 table to schedule at least one at home every week.
Lets say for 14 teams.
Thanks
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I can do your schedules for you(there will be a fee). I do schedules for many leagues since 1995. I've also done them for some AZer's with positive feedback. It's not something you can explain how to do. I will not do them for free anymore as it is time consuming. There are a couple AZer's that i did schedules for that ignored me after they got their schedules. One didn't even say thanks and i know he used the schedules i made for him.

Anyways, the schedules would have everyone playing eachother the same amount of times, with home and aways alternating. 2 teams on one table at one location no prob. multiple locations no prob. Let me know.
 
Schedules

Home and away schedules are just the possible number of combinations:

1-8 2-9 3-10 4-11 5-12 6-13 7-14
9-1 10-2 11-3 12-4 13-5 14-6 8-7
1-10 2-11 3-12 4-13 5-14 6-8 7-9
11-1 12-2 13-3 14-4 8-5 9-6 10-7
1-12 2-13 3-14 4-8 5-9 6-10 7-11
13-1 14-2 8-3 9-4 10-5 11-6 12-7
1-14 2-8 3-9 4-10 5-11 6-12 7-13

This is for 1st 7 weeks. Reverse every number for 2nd 7 weeks, i.e. instead of 1-8 2-9, it will be 8-1 9-2, etc.

Home is the first number listed, i.e., 1-8 means team 1 plays team 8 at 1's place. By reversing the numbers for the 2nd 7 weeks, each team will play each team once at their place and once away.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Home and away schedules are just the possible number of combinations:

1-8 2-9 3-10 4-11 5-12 6-13 7-14
9-1 10-2 11-3 12-4 13-5 14-6 8-7
1-10 2-11 3-12 4-13 5-14 6-8 7-9
11-1 12-2 13-3 14-4 8-5 9-6 10-7
1-12 2-13 3-14 4-8 5-9 6-10 7-11
13-1 14-2 8-3 9-4 10-5 11-6 12-7
1-14 2-8 3-9 4-10 5-11 6-12 7-13

This is for 1st 7 weeks. Reverse every number for 2nd 7 weeks, i.e. instead of 1-8 2-9, it will be 8-1 9-2, etc.

Home is the first number listed, i.e., 1-8 means team 1 plays team 8 at 1's place. By reversing the numbers for the 2nd 7 weeks, each team will play each team once at their place and once away.
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this system will work nicely if all 14 teams were playing in one location. (in house league)

But with multiple locations with 2 home teams per table(1 away and 1 home each week) this will no get the job done.
 
Good luck.

I tried to learn the math for this, but I got lost somewhere. Combinatorial math never was my thing, nor was matrices. I was gonna write a program to do it recursively (i.e. try every possible set til one works), but I got lazy, and the person who needed it found it elsewhere.

They sell software to do this, I saw some advertised in the VNEA magazine just yesterday. Just browsing google, (http://www.google.com/search?q=leag...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a) looks like there's stuff from $40 to $100.

Gosh, I could use $40 to $100. Maybe I will write that program, make it bare-bones, and charge $20 :D.

-s
 
http://www.playbca.com/Downloads/TeamSchedule/tabid/149/Default.aspx

Doesn't address the multiple teams at one location issue, but you might have to move a few around to make it fit your system.

The first number listed in a matchup is the home team. If the teams play each other twice, once home and once away, you might have to switch the home/away matches to account for the places with 1 table and 2 teams.

Take your time, it isn't hard to write up. Use Excel to do it.
 
Snapshot9 said:
Home and away schedules are just the possible number of combinations:

1-8 2-9 3-10 4-11 5-12 6-13 7-14
9-1 10-2 11-3 12-4 13-5 14-6 8-7
1-10 2-11 3-12 4-13 5-14 6-8 7-9
11-1 12-2 13-3 14-4 8-5 9-6 10-7
1-12 2-13 3-14 4-8 5-9 6-10 7-11
13-1 14-2 8-3 9-4 10-5 11-6 12-7
1-14 2-8 3-9 4-10 5-11 6-12 7-13

This is for 1st 7 weeks. Reverse every number for 2nd 7 weeks, i.e. instead of 1-8 2-9, it will be 8-1 9-2, etc.

Home is the first number listed, i.e., 1-8 means team 1 plays team 8 at 1's place. By reversing the numbers for the 2nd 7 weeks, each team will play each team once at their place and once away.
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This is really great Scott I really appreciate your quick help.
PM me your regular email if you read your emails.
Thanks again
 
You might take a look at the Billiard & Sports League Scheduler by TimeMagic.

http://www.timemagic.com

They have a simple, inexpensive program that will produce league or tournament schedules with single or multiple teams playing out of any number of locations for the number of weeks you select. Easy to use and been around for a long time. You can download a demo to try it out.

But you do have to realize that depending on the number of weeks and locations and teams and depending on how many teams are hosted at the same location, it may simply be impossible to do a true home & away schedule for every team for every week.
 
stuckart said:
http://www.playbca.com/Downloads/TeamSchedule/tabid/149/Default.aspx

Doesn't address the multiple teams at one location issue, but you might have to move a few around to make it fit your system.

The first number listed in a matchup is the home team. If the teams play each other twice, once home and once away, you might have to switch the home/away matches to account for the places with 1 table and 2 teams.

Take your time, it isn't hard to write up. Use Excel to do it.
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If you look at the first number being the home team on this schedule there are too many home games in a row and too many away games in a row I don't know why they didn't make it with even numbers of home 1 week and away the next week.
Thanks
 
ronhudson said:
You might take a look at the Billiard & Sports League Scheduler by TimeMagic.

http://www.timemagic.com

They have a simple, inexpensive program that will produce league or tournament schedules with single or multiple teams playing out of any number of locations for the number of weeks you select. Easy to use and been around for a long time. You can download a demo to try it out.

But you do have to realize that depending on the number of weeks and locations and teams and depending on how many teams are hosted at the same location, it may simply be impossible to do a true home & away schedule for every team for every week.
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If you look at their demo there are too many games for the same team away in a row etc
Thanks
 
mreightball said:
This is really great Scott I really appreciate your quick help.
PM me your regular email if you read your emails.
Thanks again
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Firstly, I want to say I'm just here to help.

ok 14 teams takes 13 weeks for every team to play eachother once. Doing a schedule for 7 weeks then rotating for the next 7 is 14 weeks and will not be round robin. you have wk 1 = 1-8, wk 2 = 9-1, wk 3 = 1-10, wk 4 = 11-1, wk 5 = 1-12, wk 6 = 13-1, wk 7 = 1-14. So, team 1 will play teams; 8,9,10,11,12,13,14. when is team 1 gonna play teams; 2,3,4,5,6,7 to complete the round robin? Also, the harder part is the multiple locations.
 
mreightball said:
If you look at their demo there are too many games for the same team away in a row etc
Thanks
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Again I say, sometimes it's impossible given the number of teams, weeks, multiple teams at one location, etc. If you find a program that does perfect home/away schedules under every circumstance, let us all know about it.

Good luck.
 
ronhudson said:
Again I say, sometimes it's impossible given the number of teams, weeks, multiple teams at one location, etc. If you find a program that does perfect home/away schedules under every circumstance, let us all know about it.

Good luck.
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Thanks for your reply. Appreciate the help. The schedule that Scott posted was great for the home and away for the teams posted but now we have to figure out for team 1 playing teams 2/3/4/5/6/7 having them home and away. I see where this will put some teams playing 2 weeks at home or 2 weeks away in a row.
 
leaguedude - my apologies

I can vouch for leaguedude here in making a schedule for you. He did this for me last year. In addition I somehow was the guilty party that forgot to thank him for his efforts and services. I apologize for not thanking you back then when you did this for me. Thank you for having created my schedule for me last year.

Kevin
 
start with a correct base schedule

Take the BCA base schedule then you know it is correct for every team to play every other team once (then 2nd half is just a flip-flop of 1st half).

Write it out 1 week at a time and then you can "adjust" where a team is playing (do not adjust "who" they are playing). As you do each week you can review the previous week to see who was home and who was away and go from there to make it as fair as possible.

When you have locations with only 1 table and 2 teams all the players need to realize that you must defer to that situation - besides, if a team is away 2, sometimes 3, weeks in a row in the 1st half then they will be "home" those several weeks in a row in the 2nd half !!!

My upcoming season has 3 bars with 1 table and 2 teams. I will typically "sacrifce" my team whenever possible in trying to make it as "home-away" fair as possible to the other 18 teams.

The bottom line is everyone will play everyone else twice - once away and once home.

Fran
 
Meezer Girl said:
Take the BCA base schedule then you know it is correct for every team to play every other team once (then 2nd half is just a flip-flop of 1st half).

Write it out 1 week at a time and then you can "adjust" where a team is playing (do not adjust "who" they are playing). As you do each week you can review the previous week to see who was home and who was away and go from there to make it as fair as possible.

When you have locations with only 1 table and 2 teams all the players need to realize that you must defer to that situation - besides, if a team is away 2, sometimes 3, weeks in a row in the 1st half then they will be "home" those several weeks in a row in the 2nd half !!!

My upcoming season has 3 bars with 1 table and 2 teams. I will typically "sacrifce" my team whenever possible in trying to make it as "home-away" fair as possible to the other 18 teams.

The bottom line is everyone will play everyone else twice - once away and once home.

Fran
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I will give it a try and see what happens
Thanks
Ron
 
Kevin Lindstrom said:
I can vouch for leaguedude here in making a schedule for you. He did this for me last year. In addition I somehow was the guilty party that forgot to thank him for his efforts and services. I apologize for not thanking you back then when you did this for me. Thank you for having created my schedule for me last year.

Kevin
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No prob Kevin. I accept..lol...Send me this years schedule info and we'll do it again....
 
leaguedude said:
Firstly, I want to say I'm just here to help.

ok 14 teams takes 13 weeks for every team to play eachother once. Doing a schedule for 7 weeks then rotating for the next 7 is 14 weeks and will not be round robin. you have wk 1 = 1-8, wk 2 = 9-1, wk 3 = 1-10, wk 4 = 11-1, wk 5 = 1-12, wk 6 = 13-1, wk 7 = 1-14. So, team 1 will play teams; 8,9,10,11,12,13,14. when is team 1 gonna play teams; 2,3,4,5,6,7 to complete the round robin? Also, the harder part is the multiple locations.
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Are there any more suggestions out there on a schedule. As leaguedude said about snapshots suggestion there are some weeks missing.
 
mreightball said:
Are there any more suggestions out there on a schedule. As leaguedude said about snapshots suggestion there are some weeks missing.
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mr8

Send me your team names with home locations and any other details.
 
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