Hope you got your money from Trudeau...

I'm sure that there is some great info in the books. But, the issue with KT was that he wasn't allowed to appear in infomercials due to the coral calcium fiasco about a cure for cancer. It's pretty sick to use the desperate in attempt to make money. His crime isn't the books he is peddling but the manner in which he marketed them.
I agree with you his marketing team could of took a different approach than that one,it was way to General.I watched a Doctor on tv talking about the benifits of Coral Calicium and how somebody with cancer can benifit from it but not cure it.I think it depends what stage its in to determine of how much of the calcium will benefit that person.The problem is with any type of cure is that if one person comes forward and claims that it cured them from a terminal illness,everybody will assume it will cure them to.We all grasp for hope everyday and as I don't condone his Marketing on this product ,I couldn't say the guy is a complete fool either.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I would like to make a few general observations.

In the short era of the IPT, some of our champions received the biggest pay days ever. Bustamante said his biggest win was from an IPT event.

Secondly, I see so many threads on here, glorifying the hustles and cons of the great pool hustlers and con men of the past. Hey, I find these old tales as entertaining as you do. Whether they were laying the lemon on the pool table, or betting that they could drive a golf ball a mile. They were, essentially, lieing and cheating. Some of these guys were KNOWN murderers. Right? Yet we applaud their...achievements? Another guy like Trudeau sells BOOKS that say you might get cured of various disease by eating a supplement....learn how to get out of debt... hustles these books, makes millions upon millions...does put some money into the pool world...and gets blasted by the forum?

I'm just saying....lets not be hypocritical. As you were.
 
Have you read any of his books?All the info in his Natural Cures books were not just his brain at work.Doctors,Naturopaths and people in Sports Medicine helped him with alot of the books.You may not like him but to say eveything in those books are false is just simply wrong.Even Jim and Tammy Baker who I agree were 2 wankers still made millions along with alot of those same type of Religious types that are on tv today.The problem isn't these people,the problem lies within the general public who aren't smart enough to figure out whats a scam and what isn't and would rather be a sheep than take the reins.


No, I don't think I will be reading any of Kevin Trudeau's books, you've got me there.
Apparently I can get the same info from my doctor who can also prescribe medication that works.
That holistic crap has never worked for me.
Kevin Trudeau gives me the creeps, and in my opinion he is a "wanker"...:)
 
Millions of people sent money to Jim & Tammy Baker's PTL club too.

These Tele Vangelists preach from a pulpit inside a church so large that you could fly a helicopter in. God wanted them to live in a mansion and drive Mercedes Benzs'

I mean they have to be comfortable while others who suffer send in their last few dollars in desperate hope that God will answer their prayers.

On the other hand, Tammy Faye did her part in supporting Revlon for many years.

Same as any scammer, they prey on desperate people.
When you read the Rip Off Report, there were a few American Service people that got taken in on the credit card scam. Can you imagine how many more there were?

These cockroaches don't have the ability to feel guilt. They don't discriminate on whos money they steal.
 
Disagreed about Trudeau's books having useful information in them.

How soon people forget, the myriad of complaints that his books contained only teasers but no complete information. It directed customers to subscribe on his website via credit card, and each subscription leads to more and more buys that never quite give a complete picture.

And on top of that, he kept charging customers' credit cards when people tried to cancel.
 
"It's only business"

And meanwhile he could not care less what a bunch of broke pool players think. I'm not a fan of his or anything, but i just think this is the american way. Do you think all big business or say churches get their money without lying and manipulating. I guess it all comes down to how far are you willing to go though, and KT is willing to go very far it seems, I will say that. Yet so are business leaders with lobbying etc.

======================
The Chinchilla is exactly right....

Brushes with the regulators are factored in and written off as

"The Cost of Doing Business." ...and those costs are passed on to you the consumer as the ever-popular "Cost of of Living Increase" in prices.

Brings to mind: "Don't hate The Player, hate The Game."

In a Capitalistic economy some MUST fail for others to succeed.

Example: If I have ALL the money and loan you One Dollar with ten percent interest....you have to repay $1.10...where are you going to get the non existent [circulating].10 cents ?

Answer: From some other schmuck that bought some worthless P.O.S. from you with their borrowed and collateralized money and the non-existent interest justa - keeps on a floatin.

The Children' game, Musical Chairs was to prepare you for what lay ahead.

************IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY 'ER WHAT !! ***********

Remember The Alamo...no, no, I mean, THEY LIVE !

CONSUME - OBEY - STAY ASLEEP - PLAY POOL .

[ok. I threw that last one in myself]
 
Trudeau

A couple of weeks ago, I heard a commercial for Trudeau on a local radio station. It kind of surprised me being on the the radio.
 
I remember years ago during the height of the IPT getting bashed on the forum for knowing that the whole thing was on the highway to hell. Guys like KT only have one method. If he gave some pros some big paydays it was because he was looking to fleas hundreds of others.

The old fable describes him best:
The Scorpion and the Frog is a fable about a scorpion asking a frog to carry him across a river. The frog is afraid of being stung during the trip, but the scorpion argues that if it stung the frog, the frog would sink and the scorpion would drown. The frog agrees and begins carrying the scorpion, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When asked why, the scorpion points out that this is its nature.

KT is a Scorpion. I hope he dies a ugly slow death in prison.

Nick
 
This guy Leroy Thompson is one of the greatest hustlers of all time.

Apparently there is more than one that should. Is this Leroy guy for real?

Which reminds me.
What do you call a black man on a horse?
Leroy Rogers.

Nick, I like the Pic. Deano was always one of my favorites.
They have a nice Deano montage of his life, wife and kids on the Tube.
Check it out.
 
I don't have a dog in this fight, but I would like to make a few general observations.

In the short era of the IPT, some of our champions received the biggest pay days ever. Bustamante said his biggest win was from an IPT event.

Secondly, I see so many threads on here, glorifying the hustles and cons of the great pool hustlers and con men of the past. Hey, I find these old tales as entertaining as you do. Whether they were laying the lemon on the pool table, or betting that they could drive a golf ball a mile. They were, essentially, lying and cheating. Some of these guys were KNOWN murderers. Right? Yet we applaud their...achievements? Another guy like Trudeau sells BOOKS that say you might get cured of various disease by eating a supplement....learn how to get out of debt... hustles these books, makes millions upon millions...does put some money into the pool world...and gets blasted by the forum?

I'm just saying....lets not be hypocritical. As you were.

Sums up our favorite sport. Lies, cheats and scams are romantic until they happen to YOU. Then the bashing starts. People will read about this and then a month from now will wonder why there is no big sponsors of a pro tour? Will never end as long as the hustle is more important than the game.
 
Trudeau's books

Have you read any of his books?All the info in his Natural Cures books were not just his brain at work.Doctors,Naturopaths and people in Sports Medicine helped him with alot of the books.You may not like him but to say eveything in those books are false is just simply wrong.Even Jim and Tammy Baker who I agree were 2 wankers still made millions along with alot of those same type of Religious types that are on tv today.The problem isn't these people,the problem lies within the general public who aren't smart enough to figure out whats a scam and what isn't and would rather be a sheep than take the reins.

KTs books are compendiums and compilations of other books by other people. He is not a writer, a pool expert, a health expert or anything else other than a hustler. I DID read "Natural Cures" and it does have some good info, but once again, he just copied other peoples research and experience. I bought "Natural Cures" at a Library book sale for $50 and overpaid. I have some background in natural healing, and I found nothing in his book that I hadn't read somewhere else previously, and a lot of filler to increase the number of words.

Donny L
BCA/ACS Instructor
Gainesville, Fl
 
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