maybe just maybe oneday I'll be able to walk into a poolroom and be able to find a decient house cue on the wall, it's really is a shame that these poolrooms don't have decient cues where you could come off the street and play and not even thinking about what shit sticks they have availabile to use and not say I wish I had my cue with me, but the truth of the matter is most poolrooms suck when it comes to keeping up with house cues IMO they would have full house's if they had decient cues for all.
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I agree it is a universal problem, but I really don't think it would drastically change the number of players attending the poolhall. Plus they would last longer if the scrubs that come in would just stop banging them on the table all the time and quit trying to be a Tom Cruise Karate Pool Cue Champion.justabrake said:
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Where I live I see the House Cues abused, and let to WARP. Than more House Cues are purchased for 10 Buck or so. Signs have been put up to reminder folks to replace the House Cues in the Racks but fall upon those who are apparently Deaf, Dumb, Blind, and TOO Lazy to return the House Cues back to the Rack.
Well i guess i finally got thru to our room owner cause not long ago he replaced about HALF of the old junk cues with brand new cuetecs. NOW i knwo these are not southwest or anything BUT atleast they are not slip on tipped pieces of fire wood like msot house sticks nowadays. Oh and they are free for all to use he doesnt charge for them.
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No the truth of the matter is most poolroom customers suck when it comes to keeping up with house cues along with other things.
Now you are on the right track but that doesn't begin to cover it. Banging them on the table is only the warm up. Try javelin throwing, standing on them and rolling them with their feet like mini timberjack logs, stirring the trash in the trash can, poking holes through the dry wall, sword fighting, playing large drum sticks on bar stools, poking holes in upholstered chairs, breaking them over their knees and opponents backs, etc.
And while were at it, lets guess how many times the paper towel holders and the soap dispensers have been yanked off the bathroom wall, or how many different objects have been stuffed into the toilets.
Now you may think I run a crazy rough room, but mine is clean, calm and mild compared to most.
P.S. None of the previously mentioned customers were allowed back in my room after their escort out, however there are four replacements for every one barred.
bigoldfatgirl said:
Well, I didn't go into detail, because all of that stuff I thought was obvious to all of us. I was putting all of that in one category.
ALSO, when you quote, please keep the poster's name with their quote. I would hate for anyone to think I wrote the first one you quoted.
Well, besides punks breaking them, I know one local owner who's realllly cheap when it comes to house cues.
He buys these $10 house cues and the tips are flying.
He asks me how much for re-tip. I tell him $5 each with 10 cues minimum.
He whines about the price since he can get new cues for $10.
I tell him go ahead since those tips are gonna fly anyway.
I tell him it's $10 for press fitte fiber ferrule too since those loose plastic ferrules on imported house cues don't last long. He whines about that too.
Now, if these pool hall owners didn't whine about paying $50 for Dufferin house cues, Dufferin would still be in business and making house cues in Canada.
Now you have these Palmers and new skinny Valley house cues which warp like noodles in a week.
He buys these $10 house cues and the tips are flying.
He asks me how much for re-tip. I tell him $5 each with 10 cues minimum.
He whines about the price since he can get new cues for $10.
I tell him go ahead since those tips are gonna fly anyway.
I tell him it's $10 for press fitte fiber ferrule too since those loose plastic ferrules on imported house cues don't last long. He whines about that too.
Now, if these pool hall owners didn't whine about paying $50 for Dufferin house cues, Dufferin would still be in business and making house cues in Canada.
Now you have these Palmers and new skinny Valley house cues which warp like noodles in a week.
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JoeyInCali said:
Truer words have not been spoken.
Personally, if i had to use a house cue, i would go for the first, Cuetec one i can find.
For a house cue, they do hit nice, and i havent seen too many of them warp. Plus they are nice for breaking too. Although you kinda need a glove to make them slide nice.
One of the pool rooms i goto has alot of cuetec 1 piece cues, along with a bunch of Valley 1piece cues too.
Now the other two pool rooms in town have some not so good house cues and its basically a pick n choose of what you can find. I have seen some with huge ferrules, or really tiny ones, or the shaft is so thin, its like a 11mm tip.
Or they are so warped its like a banana.
dave
For a house cue, they do hit nice, and i havent seen too many of them warp. Plus they are nice for breaking too. Although you kinda need a glove to make them slide nice.
One of the pool rooms i goto has alot of cuetec 1 piece cues, along with a bunch of Valley 1piece cues too.
Now the other two pool rooms in town have some not so good house cues and its basically a pick n choose of what you can find. I have seen some with huge ferrules, or really tiny ones, or the shaft is so thin, its like a 11mm tip.
Or they are so warped its like a banana.
dave
Ok...a thing or two that I've noticed at the pool hall that I tend to take my business to.
1. The largest portion of the people there are teenagers.
1a. Have you ever seen a teenager clean up their OWN room? Let alone a pool hall that isn't even theirs!
2. Most of the employees of the pool hall spend more time shooting pool at the first table than they do behind the counter keeping an eye on the boss' business!
2a. Perhaps if more cleaning/picking up was done than flirting, they'd have better house cues.
3. More time is spent by the other employees trying to flirt/hook-up/make out with the actual players.
Maybe if they started hiring "non" pool players to work there, they'd start giving better service & have a better business all the way around.
I apologize for tossing this rant in, but these are definite problems that seem to arise at any larger pool hall and are another reason why the house cues seem to always be in horrible condition.
1. The largest portion of the people there are teenagers.
1a. Have you ever seen a teenager clean up their OWN room? Let alone a pool hall that isn't even theirs!
2. Most of the employees of the pool hall spend more time shooting pool at the first table than they do behind the counter keeping an eye on the boss' business!
2a. Perhaps if more cleaning/picking up was done than flirting, they'd have better house cues.
3. More time is spent by the other employees trying to flirt/hook-up/make out with the actual players.
Maybe if they started hiring "non" pool players to work there, they'd start giving better service & have a better business all the way around.
I apologize for tossing this rant in, but these are definite problems that seem to arise at any larger pool hall and are another reason why the house cues seem to always be in horrible condition.
Ctatyk said:
I have to agree with this. Some of the places I go do have kids and players for employees and it really made me not want to go back during the night times.
However, the places that have non-players working at them, really stay on top of things and keep the place looking sharp all night long even of the busy nights. It really make a difference.
The thing I can think of that throws all this off balance is selling merchandise. If you have non-players running the show, they usually no nothing about the equipment for selling and that tends to case the owner not to profit from sales. I can't tell you how many times at certain rooms, a non-player employee would come up to me and ask me if I would help somebody pick out a new cue or something. I'm from out of town, but I still say yes unless I'm in game. SIDE NOTE: Some of those place the employee gets 10% of the sale as a commition. I've never got a $ tip for selling stuff for any of them, not that I would take it. It just hadn't occurred to me until just now.
Where I play, they got a few Cuetec house cues. Within a couple of weeks, they were all warped. I though Cuetec were supposed to be warp resistant, but these were warped as much as any other house cue.StormHotRod300 said:
I love that Alain martel plays with a 1-piece Dufferin house cue (and beat Earl and his cuetec in the knockout round of last year's WPC).
I went for an office party the other night at a rec room at a local college campus the other night that had 10 tables in the back. Much to my joy, the place had nothing but Cuetec house cues. I was prepared to shoot with the crappy house cues you find everywhere. It really made me realize that the cue I have is really not nearly as good as I thought and that I can't wait to get my new cue in a couple weeks.
StormHotRod300 said:
My first 6 pack in 9 ball was with a Cuetec housecue at Starcade Billiards in Florida. I didn't have a cue at the time, and Starcade Billiards would rent you a cuetec housecue for like a buck and hour. Over the next month I won their weekly 8 ball and 9 ball tournaments at least once with that same stupid cuetec. It hit great, but I was playing great. There was a guy in my office at Hurlburt who didn't know how I played. I told him that I wanted to play in a tournament that night (I believe it was a Thursday night handicapped 9 ball tournament at that point - and there were PLAYERS in these things..like Scotty Townsend and David Broxston to name a few) but didn't have the 10 bucks (or whatever it was) to enter (yes I was a broke E-2 at that time), but if he put me in we would split the winnings. Well, damned if he didn't pony it up on pure faith (and he was the same rank, but better at managing his money I suppose), and I went through the tournament undefeated (yes..with that Cuetec housecue, but it was a handicapped tournament and the better players like David Broxston had to go to like 6 and I had to go to 3..or something like that, so my odds were real good). Anyhow, thinking back - maybe I should have bought that Cuetec housecue. I do remember it had a wood shaft..and was not sticky at all.
I remember the place I started playing pool at in Nashville had all Dufferin house cues. I would go around and find the best house cues and burn them with a lighter so I could pick them out later. I went for a long time without a two piece cue...and I swear some of those select Dufferins I found played fantastic.
Matt,
The pool room i frequent that has a bunch of Cuetec 1piece cues does have those 2piece cuetec's, and they rent them out for like 1$ or a 1$ per hour, and they do have a wood shaft.
I do know a guy who is a trucker and he bought a 1piece cuetec house cue, and brings it anytime he is playing. And even made a long slip on case for it too.
dave
The pool room i frequent that has a bunch of Cuetec 1piece cues does have those 2piece cuetec's, and they rent them out for like 1$ or a 1$ per hour, and they do have a wood shaft.
I do know a guy who is a trucker and he bought a 1piece cuetec house cue, and brings it anytime he is playing. And even made a long slip on case for it too.
dave