I was playing at my home bar yesterday. I was watching two guys playing 8-ball. One of the guys was trying to put the 8 ball in the corner pocket. He missed the pocket, but scratched in the side pocket. Everyone acknowledged the game was over, except the guy that made the shot, which was apparent from the puzzled look on his face. He said "no, its ball in hand because he did not sink the 8 ball". Seeing he was the only one in the room of this opinion, he quickly conceded.
He sat down next to me to further discuss the scratch on the eight rule. He was just as shocked that I had never heard this rule, as I was in hearing of this rule. We are in a bar so it is common to ask the opponent if they want to play league or bar rules. They decided on "league" rules. This is the start of the confusion. He was playing by the league rules he knew from NY, not the ones we know here (FL). I started in APA and I am in TAP and Gold Coast leagues now. I understand there are some differences between the leagues, but all of my experience has always been any scratch on the eight is a loss of the game and assumed this was a universal rule. Oddly he claimed to have played APA in NY, but this rule and other things he claimed of his experiences with APA there do not jive with the official rules. I told him he piqued my curiosity and I would do some research. Well now I see now that this rule can be different. There are other leagues (BCA,UPA, etc.) that if you scratch while shooting the eight, but do not pocket the eight results in a BIH foul not a loss of game. Hmm... Learned something new.
I am still interested how he played in APA for so many years, and not know this rule or the scoring and safety details we also discussed. Now that I have the correct and complete information I can straighten out the issue next week.