How do I guage myself A,B,C or D?

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snipershot said:
so are all these tests done on a regulation 9' table or bar boxes, or does it even matter? I figure I am better than some, and worse than others. :grin-square:
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I do mine on a bar box because that is what I have. Johnnyt
 
While I enjoy the ghost and other drills, they are only telling us our skill in the offensive side of the game. When I played a lot money games I saw many a "C" player that could beat me and other "B" players on his/her safety and kicking ability. Most were over 50 yo and probably were much better shotmakers not that long ago. Johnnyt
 
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cleary said:
I think this is a bit excessive. A players speed has more to do with an overall game then how many racks they have strung together. Its real easy to talk about an 8 pack on the internet, but I think it happens a lot less than its talked about.

I think a better way to judge speed is either the joe tucker system that was posted by tjlmbklr

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Something Jude posted a long time ago that seemed to make sense.

"D - Will appear as though they are stumbling through the rack. Their occasional run-outs will either consist of very easy layouts (which they will nearly mess-up), a few lucky shots and/or unintentional position.

C - Greater sense of cue control and much more of a deliberate appearance than a D. They will undoubtedly run out with BIH with 3 or 4 left and will make it look routine but are suspect beyond that.

B - Really the beginning of the run out player. If they make a ball on the break and get position on the 1 ball, they should have a reasonable expectation to get out. Any cluster or unusual position play will diminish their chances significantly. Usually, B players possess unusual strength in either pocketing, strategy or position play. Rarely two of three, never all three. Their creativity is usually limited at this level but you may begin to see glimpses of what's to come.

A - Definitely catagorized as a run out player. They are supposed to capitalize on most mistakes. Greater attention is paid to more subtle details. Expect a consistent and strong break and strength in multiple attributes (pocketing, defense, position play, creativity). Most noticeable among players at this level and above is an aura of confidence.

Open & Above is very similar to what you see described in A only more refined. You will see advanced to expert break, pocketing, defense, position play and creativity. Low level opens might be advanced in all of these catagories while world class professionals might be experts in most or all. All of these players are expected to run out with any routine opportunity. Any run-stopper situation (clusters, blocked position routes) is expected to be handled in such a way to still give the shooter an expectation of winning."
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Really well written, and thought out, especially in valuing the variety of skills needed and how they can interact to show your level.


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A little clarification as well

CreeDo said:
I gotta call you out on that one patrick =)
It's inevitable you'll get mad but I'm not doing it to be mean, just trying to give you some perspective.

Many times I've heard guys say something that sorta sounds like: "Just cuz I don't play by doing exactly what the so-called pros do doesn't mean I am not a winner! I just win using my own style! Let them try to be 'pro' against me and I'll use my unique technique to take em down!" It's definitely got a fishy C-player ring to it, and you hear it in a ton of different sports and even among competitive video gamers.

The majority of games may not be won by B&RO at your level, and of course a good player needs a safety game... but the dudes on ESPN will do it something like 25-40% of the time. By definition more runouts = more wins, and by definition more wins = better player. If you haven't run more than 1 or 2, it's not because you have a 'safety-using style', it means that either you fail to pocket balls on the break, fail to stick whitey so that you have a good opening shot, or fail to stay in line once you start running balls. These are all things you can improve to get to B-level.

Hope I don't sound like too much a d*ckhead here =) My own record is only 3 in a row, and I think it's fair to rate me based on that because statistics say that over a long time, a player of my skill will do that eventually, with several 2-packs and maybe a 4 or 5-pack outlier that happened on the best day of my life (but it hasn't happened yet).
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Now I stated that I have never broke and ran out a 9-ball rack more than two in a row that I can recall. However, I can tell you that I have on more than one occasion broke and won more than four or five in a row. I have even broke and won without my opponent getting to the table on more than one occasion four in a row. However, I did not have to "runout" the entire rack.:grin:
 
I'm a big fat, solid D, but hope to make it up to C some day.

Quick question: virtually all the rating systems are based on 9 ball. Is there a rating system A-D for 8 ball? Straight pool? I know I'm still a D in those as well, but am curious what a C player would consist of in 8 ball and 14.1.
 
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