How do I guage myself A,B,C or D?

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MilwShooter said:
just get your wife to play pool with you and sign up for the forum, all the tough work is over at that point.
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My "mantime" is very valuable to me.

The wife is not permitted to FISH, GOLF, PLAY POOL or HUNT.

Likewise I am not permitted to SHOP FOR COACH PURSES, GET MANICURES, ASK IF I'M FAT, or GOSSIP.

Fair exchange.
 
The AZ ratings committee and the link say I am an 8 but not for long. :D:D:D

BVal
 
Beware_of_Dawg said:
My "mantime" is very valuable to me. The wife is not permitted to FISH, GOLF, PLAY POOL or HUNT. Likewise I am not permitted to SHOP FOR COACH PURSES, GET MANICURES, ASK IF I'M FAT, or GOSSIP.

Fair exchange.
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Then stop pm'ing me asking if you are fat. DAMN!!! :D:D:D

BVal
 
cleary said:
I think this is a bit excessive. A players speed has more to do with an overall game then how many racks they have strung together. Its real easy to talk about an 8 pack on the internet, but I think it happens a lot less than its talked about.

I think a better way to judge speed is either the joe tucker system that was posted by tjlmbklr

or

Something Jude posted a long time ago that seemed to make sense.

"D - Will appear as though they are stumbling through the rack. Their occasional run-outs will either consist of very easy layouts (which they will nearly mess-up), a few lucky shots and/or unintentional position.

C - Greater sense of cue control and much more of a deliberate appearance than a D. They will undoubtedly run out with BIH with 3 or 4 left and will make it look routine but are suspect beyond that.

B - Really the beginning of the run out player. If they make a ball on the break and get position on the 1 ball, they should have a reasonable expectation to get out. Any cluster or unusual position play will diminish their chances significantly. Usually, B players possess unusual strength in either pocketing, strategy or position play. Rarely two of three, never all three. Their creativity is usually limited at this level but you may begin to see glimpses of what's to come.

A - Definitely catagorized as a run out player. They are supposed to capitalize on most mistakes. Greater attention is paid to more subtle details. Expect a consistent and strong break and strength in multiple attributes (pocketing, defense, position play, creativity). Most noticeable among players at this level and above is an aura of confidence.

Open & Above is very similar to what you see described in A only more refined. You will see advanced to expert break, pocketing, defense, position play and creativity. Low level opens might be advanced in all of these catagories while world class professionals might be experts in most or all. All of these players are expected to run out with any routine opportunity. Any run-stopper situation (clusters, blocked position routes) is expected to be handled in such a way to still give the shooter an expectation of winning."
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I really like Jude's definitions here. And that's not because it firmly plants me in the B category. Well, I do fit as a B in the rack-running criteria, but maybe not as solid a B :p

These categories really take into account most of the tangible aspects of a player's game, and even some of the intangibles, like confidence and creativity. It shows development as a spectrum of several different skills and how they interplay to create a player's true potential at a table at any given moment.

Next time I can make it out to the hall, I'll give Joe Tucker's drill/test a try. It'll probably show my game's weakness in my break pretty well!
 
Years ago I saw on a wall that your ranking is determined by how many balls you miss per game. I think for pros it was about 1 ball every 3-4 games. And then you work from there. Running packages might not be the best gauge because pro's don't run 8 packs and above on a daily basis. I've strung 7 and out once...but I am a consistent B player.

Christian
 
A light and casual way to look at your rating...

This system is on an Honest Average of shooting balls...maybe you are playing 9 ball or 8 ball ...or what ever....this just has to do with your ball pocketing honest averge...

Out of 100 balls attempted to be pocketed from many different angles and lengths overall..

How many balls will you or he or she or him or her will on average be missed????

How many out of 100 are you going to miss...???

0-5 A+
6-15 A
16-25 B+
26-35 B
36-50 C
51+ D

Now remember some days you will pocket balls like a champion and some days you will pocket balls like a beginner maybe...

So, be honest about your average overall....over a period of time...

For instance..."Last year I would on average miss about 24 out of 100 and now this year looks like I am only missing about 15 out of 100."

A simple way to rate yourself...

Good Luck...

Mr. J.
 
MilwShooter said:
I'm a 7???...I mean...I'm a 7!

I would've thought myself a bit lower, perhaps a C player....guess these 2 tests contradict each other and I'm back to wondering what I am again....
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Well looky here, maybe since I am apparently a 7 and you are too we need to get some money games going here......

The ball is in your court! ;)
 
how about this gauge

alwayzcocacola0 said:
Just wondering what the criteria is for each and how i would go about ranking myself.
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This is how we use to rank players.
We would say He plays:
Jam up - Pro
Pretty Sporty - Open/short stop
Good - A
Decent - B

Make sure you stall on all others :)


Actually I always gauged my game on how I did against other competitors at a certain level. If I am playing A players even and winning and losing equally than I am A and so on and so on down the list.

You can call yourself whatever you want, but how do you perform when you are put to the test is what really matters. I always felt if you don't know where you stand in the pool rating system you aren't competing enough. Pool is a brutally honest game and it will tell you where you stand very quickly. JMO
 
Snapshot9 said:
to guage yourself without a lot of hassle:

Never run a 9 ball table, D player
Have run at least 1 table, C player
Have run a 3-5 pack, B player
Have run an 8 pack, A player
Have run multiple 8 packs or better, A+ player.

There you go, simple, to the point, easy to remember.
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OK, heres my question on the 8 packs, are we talking breaking and running out only or counting making it early on combos and on the snap?
 
The numbers on my site are just to get a basis, obviously there are many other criteria that you can't figure in on paper.

The Desert Classic Tour, local Arizona Pool Tour, started doing staggered entry fees based on the ratings. 10's and above were classified as 'A', 8's and 9's were classified as 'B' and 7's and below were 'C'. They didn't have 'D', but that would have to be 5's and 4's.

Also, I didn't go into the difference between the 10(-1) and 10(-2) rankings. We only have 3 players at the 10(-2) in Arizona currently (Scott Frost, Rodney Morris, Mitch Ellerman).

Lots of tournaments in Arizona are handicapped based on these ratings. And most use it to limit the players that can play. ie. (8 & Under 9-ball Tuesdays, race to handicap - 3). 8 rated players go to 5, 7's to 4, 6's to 3, etc. This really boosts player numbers as everyone has a chance to win. It does hurt the 9's and 10's of the world, as they do not have as many places to play, therefore the creation of the Desert Classic Tour.
 
Snapshot9 said:
to guage yourself without a lot of hassle:

Never run a 9 ball table, D player
Have run at least 1 table, C player
Have run a 3-5 pack, B player
Have run an 8 pack, A player
Have run multiple 8 packs or better, A+ player.

There you go, simple, to the point, easy to remember.
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Great, now I know I'm a C player! :crying::crying:
 
BVal said:
Sorry :eek:

BVal
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Actually... with the AZ Rating (which is pretty cool, btw) I'm a 7. But the other Ratings in this post (all of them) I'm a C. Does a C represent the 7?

Of course, this is my own opinion - others might think I'm a D and a 5! LMAO!
 
akaTrigger said:
Actually... with the AZ Rating (which is pretty cool, btw) I'm a 7. But the other Ratings in this post (all of them) I'm a C. Does a C represent the 7?

Of course, this is my own opinion - others might think I'm a D and a 5! LMAO!
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Yes C = 7. That means I would give you the 8 :)

BVal
 
tjlmbklr said:
Well looky here, maybe since I am apparently a 7 and you are too we need to get some money games going here......

The ball is in your court! ;)
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which game? I gotta talk to my bookie first. And we play on table 4 at Romines. No foundation poles in my way. lol
 
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