How do I remove a linen wrap without damaging it?

hardknox222

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I've search the forums but could not find any discussions about this - If I want to re-use the linen wrap, how can I remove it without cutting anything off? I've got a couple of test cues that I can experiment on but I would like to get the experts opinions so I can try to avoid any of the simple mistakes. Thanks.
 
Why?

I hesitate to generalize but I believe most cuemakers insert and glue the ends of the wrap into a small hole (at least I do). If you find the very end you could cut it where the end is attached and pick the wrap loose. But, I have to ask Why would you take it off if you are just going to put it back on? :confused: :smile:
 
tsp&b said:
I hesitate to generalize but I believe most cuemakers insert and glue the ends of the wrap into a small hole (at least I do). If you find the very end you could cut it where the end is attached and pick the wrap loose. But, I have to ask Why would you take it off if you are just going to put it back on? :confused: :smile:

Thanks... that's what I thought but I guess the hard part is finding the end of the wrap.

There is a loose part in the middle of the wrap area and that is why I am taking it off and putting it back in. It is just a cheap cue so I figure I might as well learn how to do it.
 
Just My opinion, but unless It's Cortland or some other rare wrap, then I wouldn't waste My time reusing It. Especially on the same cue It comes off of, because even in the best case senerio, By the time you cut It off You may not have enough lenth left to redo the ends of the wrap. Not saying something couldn't be pulled off to make it work, but hardly worth the effort IMHO.

Greg
 
Spools

I'd just buy a single spool of linen. There is just enough for one cue and they are pretty inexpensive. Maybe buy 2 in case you botch it the first time if you are just experimenting.
 
hardknox222 said:
I've search the forums but could not find any discussions about this - If I want to re-use the linen wrap, how can I remove it without cutting anything off? I've got a couple of test cues that I can experiment on but I would like to get the experts opinions so I can try to avoid any of the simple mistakes. Thanks.


There some things that may be worth saving a buck on when it comes to cue repair, but a linen wrap is certainly not one of them.
 
are you doing it or want to have it done?

i know on some older collectable cues some try to save the wrap. i would only do it on a szambotu or a balabushka. anything else really isnt worth the effort. IMO if you are refinishing the cue damage is already done. just use new wrap unless cortland like mentioned before. i guess the only way is to cut one end and pull out the other. i think i talk to scot at proficient billiards about a older cue i wanted to save the wrap on. i know its done from time to time
 
Since the wrap is undoubtably glued to the handle, if and when you got it off, how would you go about getting it back onto the cue in EXACTLY the same position it was originally? Fuggedaboudit!

If it is a rare wrap, leave it alone.
 
The cue is a cheap no-name brand cue with a black wrap. The owner wants me to fix a loose strand in the middle of the cue but he wants me to re-use the wrap. I have a cuesmith deluxe lathe but I have not done any wrap work yet so I did not know if a wrap can be re-used or not.

by the way, I will not be charging for this work so I prefer not to spend a buck on it either. this will be a learning experience for me and if I can do it then my friend is happy as well so we both benefit from this arrangement.
 
hardknox222 said:
The cue is a cheap no-name brand cue with a black wrap. The owner wants me to fix a loose strand in the middle of the cue but he wants me to re-use the wrap. I have a cuesmith deluxe lathe but I have not done any wrap work yet so I did not know if a wrap can be re-used or not.

by the way, I will not be charging for this work so I prefer not to spend a buck on it either. this will be a learning experience for me and if I can do it then my friend is happy as well so we both benefit from this arrangement.

If you prefer not charging for it, that's fine. If your friend knows of your experience or lack of, then that's fine also. Ask him to buy some linen and you'll experiment on his cue on his buck then.
I myself think your just setting the wrong precedence if your planning on making any income from cues in the future.
If your just toying around and don't, then my apologies.
 
You may try putting water spareingly and put some elmers white glue while it is spining in the leathe . the excess can be cleaned of with water.
 
When I first started out a friend of mine gave me his cue for a new tip. Well I told him I dint need the butt as well but he gave it to me anyway. Once I was done with the tip I took a look at the butt and the linen was dirty as heck. I gave him a call and asked him if i could change it out free of charge and he said yes. Well I had just gotten some stack leather so I decided to put it on and it came out great. I got three stack leathers from that free job atleast. Dont be afraid to spend a little to make your self look good. What ever you decide dont let the cue leave your hands if you not happy with how it turned out.
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
If you prefer not charging for it, that's fine. If your friend knows of your experience or lack of, then that's fine also. Ask him to buy some linen and you'll experiment on his cue on his buck then.
I myself think your just setting the wrong precedence if your planning on making any income from cues in the future.
If your just toying around and don't, then my apologies.

i agree. i think your opening a door that isnt easily closed. i can understand wanting to help someone but some cases you just need to leave alone. if you cant do something kindly deny the work. trust me ive been there. what happens if you take it off and cant put it back on. then he has a wrapless cue and is pissed off bc he has to spend 40$ without shipping. i have a feeling this situation can only hurt
 
JerrysCues said:
You may try putting water spareingly and put some elmers white glue while it is spining in the leathe . the excess can be cleaned of with water.
I've done this quite a few times and it works, as long as the wrap is in good condition. I've had a wrap where I started to press it after using the glue, and it broke, right in the middle of the cue. Opened up a whole can of worms. I ended up having to redo the wrap with new, on my dime, for it to come out right.
Is the wrap actually linen, or nylon?
 
Dave38 said:
I've done this quite a few times and it works, as long as the wrap is in good condition. I've had a wrap where I started to press it after using the glue, and it broke, right in the middle of the cue. Opened up a whole can of worms. I ended up having to redo the wrap with new, on my dime, for it to come out right.
Is the wrap actually linen, or nylon?[/QUOTE]


Exactly what i was thinking. If its a "cheap no name brand" wouldnt those have nylon and not linen?
 
I would recommend spending a little on a single spool if I were you. Not only will you be happier the owner will also. Here is the deal. Lets say you rewrap and the linen on it now does not clean up well and the wrap job does not look very well, that can cause others to doubt your work. Spend less than $10 on this cue and do it right even if it cost you it could result in getting a really good name for yourself. Just a thought
 
I agree 100% with LosOsosCues. Spend a couple of bucks and do a jam up wrap for your friend. It will come back to you in Aces. And especially the part about not letting that cue leave your hands till it is right. Very sound advice. Good luck. Steve Price
 
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