How do you feel about Craftmaster tables?

i dont know what your budget is like but the fact of the matter is for just a few hundred more dollars you can get a valley bar box in great shape and set up for you for a grand and DOWN. If it were me and i was buying a table i wasnt going to be playing 7 hours a day...thats what i would do...a local pool hall here in colorado recently just sold some very nice very old brunswick 9ft tables and they would take it down, move it for you within a certain area and put it back together for a grand which was a great deal...
 
Sonic04GT said:
To be honest, $700 is about our limit but I will keep that in mind.
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I have seen soooooooooooooo many valley bar boxes sold for 500 or 600 bucks, and I just recently bought a new table an old one from the 70s a nice custom made 9fter for 1000, just keep your eyes out, check local bars and cuemaker/repair shops they might hear of something
 
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scruffy1 said:
RUN, dont walk! That sounds a little too good to be true.! Pic shown is the Brunswick Centurion. In good condition,i would buy them all day long.

MAKE SURE it is the same model and not one that looks like the stock photo they are using. This happens all the time.
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Thanks, I will find out :) How can I confirm this in person, especially if it's crated?
 
scruffy1 said:
RUN, dont walk! That sounds a little too good to be true.! Pic shown is the Brunswick Centurion. In good condition,i would buy them all day long.

MAKE SURE it is the same model and not one that looks like the stock photo they are using. This happens all the time.
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ditto + ditto. Way too good to be true. If it's crated consider it being a clunker or parts missing or damaged slate.
 
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Sonic04GT said:
Why do you say that as far as it being crated?
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It's boxed up. The table cannot be viewed in it's assembled state. Definitely sight unseen. What if...parts are missing or damaged. What if the slate is chipped or cracked. The rails might be dried out. And the beat goes on.
Just my feelings.
 
Sonic04GT...I'll give you another perspective. Craftmaster tables are made in Venice, FL. I have met the owner of the company (just 3 months ago) and seen, as well as played on several of their tables (he owns a small room in Venice). The tables are well made, and play fine, for what they are...a furniture-style table. They are American made, and the owner prides himself on making a quality product for a fair price. I don't think you can go wrong with this table, as long as the rubber is still good, and the slates are intact. To check the rubber, shoot a ball hard up and down the table, both longways and crossways. It should bounce at least 4 times. That's a good indicator of rubber that's okay. You'll know about the slates when you take it apart. There is no problem with you disassembling the table and moving it yourself. If I were you, I would spend the extra money and have it put back together professionally. It's worth the extra money. I'd put good quality cloth on it too...it's not that much more.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Sonic04GT said:
Thanks a lot for all the information. I think if I decide to purchase this one, we will attempt to move it ourselves, then when it comes time to set it up again we will call a professional if we can't manage to do it ourselves.

I'd rather rest assured knowing I'm playing on a table that is perfect and set up professionally.

I'm not one to jump into a big purchase but I am pretty anxious to play, and my brother is driving me up a damn wall wanting to buy the first thing he sees. I definitely don't want junk, but I don't need an expensive top of the line table. I feel this one will suit my needs but I was looking at a nice Olhausen, I believe Drake II, for $500 about a couple weeks ago but it was sold before I could get to it.
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GoldCrown said:
It's boxed up. The table cannot be viewed in it's assembled state. Definitely sight unseen. What if...parts are missing or damaged. What if the slate is chipped or cracked. The rails might be dried out. And the beat goes on.
Just my feelings.
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Yeah I hear ya. He says it has been in climate controlled storage for a few years and is there now. Said his company paid about $500 for professionals to pack it up.

It is a risk, but is it a risk worth taking. He says there's nothing wrong with it, just put some new felt on and I'll have a new table. Just doesn't have the space. He's in a condo in the fancy area downtown.

Hmm...He's sending me a couple pics from when they tore it down I believe. Said he's had a bunch of people call.
 
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Scott Lee said:
Sonic04GT...I'll give you another perspective. Craftmaster tables are made in Venice, FL. I have met the owner of the company (just 3 months ago) and seen, as well as played on several of their tables (he owns a small room in Venice). The tables are well made, and play fine, for what they are...a furniture-style table. They are American made, and the owner prides himself on making a quality product for a fair price. I don't think you can go wrong with this table, as long as the rubber is still good, and the slates are intact. To check the rubber, shoot a ball hard up and down the table, both longways and crossways. It should bounce at least 4 times. That's a good indicator of rubber that's okay. You'll know about the slates when you take it apart. There is no problem with you disassembling the table and moving it yourself. If I were you, I would spend the extra money and have it put back together professionally. It's worth the extra money. I'd put good quality cloth on it too...it's not that much more.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
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Thanks for the information, I will keep all of that in mind.
 
mechanic/player said:
Hi, Why do you think the warranty is worthless? What happened?
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Sorry if I'm jacking here. Lifetime warranty on a Brunswick GoldCrown.
I called an authorized Brunswick dealer. (The place I bought the table from is out of business). They want to send a repair person to Look and Evaluate the dead rails. At that point they will contact Brunswick. Brunswick will exchange the rails after they get them. Anyway, it went on and on. I was to pay a service charge to evaluate and pay labor for the rails to be replaced. And a new cloth is most likely needed. It is easier and less aggravating to pay out of pocket for everything which is what I am in the process of doing. One service company said Brunswick does everything it can to make the warranty unaccommodating. Also, the repair people are not the greatest. They installed the table originally.
 
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